"I beg to differ. I've never made comparisons here with OT vs. NT. Reread my posts on this. I said that a number of religious groups used and followed OT laws in terms of justifying slavery up until recent centuries. No comparisons here between the different books. Try again."


What you do is question why one thing is done in the OT Vs. the NT. That was my point.




I haven't seen or heard of that study but again, we aren't wild animals. We're human beings. I don't understand why the necesatity to make that comparison?


Yes the culture may be alien to ours but the concepts aren't.


Yes, I know the reason and don't agree with it. That was my point in an earlier post that we (man) have made the to read so as to satisfy what we believe. Show me a denomination in the scriptures. It doesn't exist yet they are here today.

"Guess what? They ALL stem from the same scripture! I challenge you to tell me this isn't true!"

I won't dispute that.

"In that, I'm no different than any other Christian."

Originally posted by SVTNupe:
Why doesn't it touch on certain themes? Don't know, perhaps it's not important.



"Ok, now I'm getting agitated here with that last bit.

THAT IS FLAT-OUT WRONG!"

My point was that it may not have been important to the context of THAT scripture. You asked earlier why aborition wasn't discussed in the scriptures. My answer is, I don't know. Since it wasn't and there are some questions regarding how God views it, I'd rather play it safe and hope that I never have to go down that path.

Originally posted by SVTNupe:
ALso, I don't need the Bible to hide behind in regards to this subject. It was brought in to play by you. And I guess the only reason why it was, was so that you could shoot down the many religious groups who don't believe in folks being gay based on the scriptures.



"Yes, it was brought up by me as misunderstood references in the Bible have been the cornerstone of persecution and bigotry in the agruments against homosexuals. There's been little else that has fueled the flames of castigation and hatred for this group of humans..."



You're claiming that they are misunderstood and personally, you haven't convinced me that what I quote from Romans doesn't address homosexuallity. Are you telling me I completely misunderstood what was meant by giving up natural relations for unatural ones with each other?

Originally posted by SVTNupe:
Like I stated earlier, I don't believe it to be natural and I don't care if a damn male frog humps another.



"Sorry, it is natural as it occurs in nature. FACT. Is it normal? No, as it only occurs in a small percentage of the population as I've said ad naseum here."


Fine, if that's the context you're coming from then it's not normal.

Originally posted by SVTNupe:
I've heard of several females in a species who kill the male after sex. Since that is a natural process in the animal world, I guess it'd be okay if women started killing us men because we always get off before they do?! I guess petifiles (sp?) would qualifiy in this context too? They can't help being attracted to children, right? Please explain the difference if there is one.



"Gladly and I'll do it first using Biblical rule/reasoning and won't even touch the framework of secular law here:

1) Murder - The morality of this act isn't in question in the Bible at all. OT, NT; the rule is the same. If a women would kill a man after sex just for the hell of it, it's not killing in self-defence, nor killing in a time of war, it's murder!

In short, the Bible specifically forbids this type of activity (murder) and there's no controversy surrounding it, either.

2) Pedophilia - Classified as sex outside/before marriage and EVERYONE knows what the Bible says about that. in Biblical terms, that's wrong, period: heterosexual or homosexual. With the above-example, you're bordering on a psychological dysfunction in terms of self-control issues. Homosexuality at it's base is NEITHER of these."

In who's opinion? So being a homosexual is no more normal than being a peodophile, correct?




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