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Either way, it's [censored] gross!
There's a reason there is pain caused by anal sex, it's the body's way of telling you that things aren't supposed to be stuck in there!

Jato, that is true that you need to understand the context of the scripture but it is very clear in saying that men and women gave up natural relations for each other (male/female) for unatural ones with the same sex. ('In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another'). No matter what the reason, that very point is clear. In other words, very cut and dry. We already know God disapproves of orgies, etc because of the kind of love he expects to take place between a man and woman. Hence, all of the scriptures that discuss this relationship.

I can't speak on hermaphrodites because I know nothing about them or the subject. I never said they were damned either and they have a choice as to whether they want to partake in any sexually activity or not. If they chose not to, how are they damned? If they chose not to have relations with a female or a male (physically or emotionally) again, why would they be condemed?

Also, we have to remember that God is consistent through out time. He doesn't change as the times change. What wasn't acceptable in Rome, Corinth, Ehesas, etc. is still unacceptable today. Now this is just me talking w/out using scriptures but I don't believe God would create woman for man and openly accept same sex relationships.

Jato,

Yes, in some instances Paul can be difficult to understand and one of the reasons why he said to some of the Christians of that day they weren't ready for solid food.

I never said orgies didn't take place. I wrote whether they were acceptable or not.

There are a lot "options" that God has taken from those who believe. The choice is whether you want to obey or not. Don't confuse the two.

I can't speak on the whole hemophridite subject. I openly admitted that because I don't know anything about it. I don't know how one is even born like that nor what the conditions are. Until I can better understand the condition, that's the best I can speak on it.

You need to look at the kind of slavery they had at the time. It was a far cry from the kind of slavery we had in the good USofA. Not the same parallel. Also, there is no blatant omission on slavery. Think about how a Christian is suppose to treat anyone in this world and explain to me how that doesn't address the kind of slavery we use to have?

I take you last comment as a bit of sarcasm. My point to it was, why even create woman? Why not just make another man? Why the many scriptures about a husband and wife, the relationship between man and woman, becoming one flesh, how the two are to love each other, etc.? I'm sorry JaTo, you argument just doesn't hold enough water for me to swing to other side of the fence.

We are to use scriptures to intepret scriptures. It's when man tries to do his own intepration based on what he believes should be the truth that scripture becomes perverted.

There are several scriptures that show us what the purpose of the OT was, to be a foreshadow of the good things to come (Hebrews 10:1). God has not changed. He will still reign down death and destruction upon his enemies (those that do not love him and accept his Son). There are many, many scritpures in the NT that speaks on this.

Also, the OT show us how God is, his personality, etc. He was very strict in the OT and is still just as strict in the NT. He still loves his people in the old just as in the new. Nothing has changed.

People like me? I take offense to that. I'm not passing judgement on anyone that is a homosexual. I'm merely stating what I believe the scriptures say on it. Again, if that's what a person wants to do with their life, it's on them. It's God they have to answer to, not me. We all have choices in this world and to this day I don't believe the scientific community has come to agreement about how one's sexual orientation is brought about. There are so many perceived illness, pyscological conditions, etc that are brought on by many different causes whether chemical imbalance or whatever. Whatever the cause is, I leave that to God. It doesn't matter what the orientation of the animal kingdom is. We're strictly speaking on the human animal and no other.

You're comparing the Bible to Greek mythology?! It's not even in the same league as far as how it came about. Just the fact that several differnt men over several hundreds years wrote testaments that don't contradict each other should say enough about its chances of becoming myth.

BP,

That's why I said you use scripture to intepret scripture. If it says you that baptism is apart of salvation and there some confusion as to what it's saying, see what the rest of the scriptures say and use that to intepret it.