Originally posted by SVTNupe:
JaTo---

Weak arguments? I think not. First and for most, the scriptures are very clear in stating that woman was made for man (1 Cor 11:9).

True. The Bible has a habit of pounding the obvious and normal into the ground. You'll get no argument from me on this point.

Originally posted by SVTNupe:
Secondly, Romans 1:24-27 is very clear on how God feels about homosexuality.


No, my understanding is that this discusses Paul's (hence God's )feeling towards Roman fertility and sex cults at the time, which engaged in wanton orgies with drink and dope. It's not referring to singular, dedicated love and passion between partners, be they heterosexual or homosexual. Look at this through not only the Bible, but the light of history as well. One MUST consider the times, situations and circumstances that Paul's letters were written in to somewhat fully understand them. Otherwise, it's like listening to a one-sided telephone conversation...

Remember, Romans is Paul's doctrine written mainly for the Jews and Gentiles in the church of Rome. Don't dare forget that Jews themselves have been persecuted using Paul's own words in a twisted and dark fashion by a number of religious groups over time. If there's one lesson that should be learned from the Bible over just about any other is that it's scripture and message isn't one of persecution.

Again, Paul's main theme in most of his letters didn't concern tolerance or understanging on ANY level towards ANYBODY. He's no Isaiah, ranting about fire and damnation, but he's far from the message of hope and peace that often occurs in red text that a certain biblical figure taught about...

As an aside, how do you categorize hermaphrodites (those with both male and female reproductive organs), since the Bible doesn't address them, either? Are they just simply damned coming into this world and screwed with either choice they make sexually?

Originally posted by SVTNupe:
Thirdly, the only human relationship the scriptures speak on is one between a man and a woman. Not between a man and a man or woman and a woman. Now why is that?

Same reason the Bible mentions NOTHING directly about abortion and all the aspects thereof.

An interpretation has to be made, though biblically and historically it's pretty easy to discern religious thoughts on the topic of abortion.

EDIT: Bad example. I'll have to think of another.

Originally posted by SVTNupe:
From any point on which I can stand, the act of homosexuality is unatural.


True, in that it makes up a minority of the population, like extreme intelligence, certain handicaps, abnormal atheletic ability, certain mental illnesses, etc., etc.

Originally posted by SVTNupe:
That is what I will teach my kids and that it is frowned upon in the sight of God. Now what someone does in the privacy of their own home is their business. This is not a bigot attitude. The problem with our society is that as time carries on, those things that were at one time not acceptable have become acceptable. We have taken on this very liberal attitude that anything goes. At what point do you draw the line?

Popular attitudes in terms of sexual activity have relaxed greatly over the years, as well as morals in general. I would separate this argument from that as it is very different in it's fundamental makeup. The Bible is very clear on extra-marital affairs, stealing, greed, sex before marriage, etc., etc.; most of the moral quagmire that exists as a challenge for people today. Again, most of the passages that religious institutions have hung their hat on in terms of judging homosexuality don't fully hold water.

Homosexuality in the Bible isn't as nearly cut and dried a topic...


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