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Originally posted by Massiv:
Ripper...
Doubt it. Back in the day, my 5.0L ripped a new a$$hole in many an E36 M3 that stepped up. One word for you: OVERHYPED!
That car's junk, bud. The only thing going for it is resale because people believe in the BMW name. Bah... Some SRT-4's are putting down a 13.9 quarter. That will absolutely smoke an E36 M3, just as my old 5.0 did, with 1979 technology. BIG DEAL! Come to think of it... that little turbo POS will even beat most 5.0L's with light mods...
It's OK to give props where due. Dodge did a *really* good thing here... yeah, it's a neon, but it's hella fast, and largely revised. If you have an older M3, maybe you'll get lucky and Dodge's turbo 2.4L will bolt right in???
Massiv.
Fist off, I'm not discrediting the neon. It is an incredible performer for the price. I'm just saying that the 2 door manual 96+ E36 m3 ran about a 14 flat quarter bone stock (no killing there), not to mention had great handeling and braking. There were automatics and convertibles and four door versions that were slower, but nothing above a mid 14 (these you could kill I suppose).
Second, if you call an e36 m3 a piece of junk, you have major problems. Have you driven one? I have. I get a little angry when people think performance is the only attribute of a car that is indicative of value. Look at the contour svt. It is a limited production grocery-getter that runs mid 15s. Big deal. Still, there are a lot of people out there that love it, myself included. The new cobra would kill an Acura NSX. Which one would you rather be in at the end of the day?
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Originally posted by bc_mondeo:
Originally posted by D Davis:
My Montana will own every vehicle mentioned in this thread 
How about the Full Size 5.7L Chev Express in the driveway.
Yep, even that 
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Originally posted by D Davis:
Originally posted by bc_mondeo:
Originally posted by D Davis:
My Montana will own every vehicle mentioned in this thread
How about the Full Size 5.7L Chev Express in the driveway.
Yep, even that
But does your 5 foot nothing Mom drive a 19ft Full Sizer?
-odd yet more common than not. At least it aint a MINIvan. Those drivers are crazy...
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I just have to chime in here again, its kind of dying down here. Dodges SUCK! And the SRT-4 is a pu$$y! Come prove me wrong, I'll enjoy it. 
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DOWN WITH DODGE! Foreign bastard company! 
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Originally posted by warmonger:
I just have to chime in here again, its kind of dying down here.
Dodges SUCK! And the SRT-4 is a pu$$y! Come prove me wrong, I'll enjoy it.
LOL! I love it.
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Originally posted by warmonger:
I just have to chime in here again, its kind of dying down here.
Dodges SUCK! And the SRT-4 is a pu$$y! Come prove me wrong, I'll enjoy it.
Man, I'd love to race you warmonger. Make ya feel bad for dropping all that money.....
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Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I just have to chime in here again, its kind of dying down here.
Dodges SUCK! And the SRT-4 is a pu$$y! Come prove me wrong, I'll enjoy it.
Man, I'd love to race you warmonger. Make ya feel bad for dropping all that money.....
Possible, but no worse the getting rid of my old car and slapping down a downpayment on a new one, right?
It'd be a fun race and win or loose I'd enjoy it.
But then again, its more likely I'll make you weep that you didn't just keep your SVT. 
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In reality, this is a silly comparison. The SRT-4 is going to make a lot of cars a lot more expensive than an svt look bad in straight line performance. It is unquestionably a performance value. But going fast is about all you get (I think the braking was good too), most reviews have not rated it favorably in handling, comfort, style or anything else.
Its not going to win much besides going fast in a straight line, but that does count for a lot in a lot of people's books, including mine.
This reminds of this guy that posted on one of the fbody boards that he smoked a viper with his modifed trans am and then yelled at the guy "I bet you feel like sh*t for spending almost 3x as much on your car". Sure it feels good, but you kinda missed the point...at the end of the day, which car would you rather have?
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Turbo Dodge owners will enjoy thieir cars for 13.8 seconds at a time. The rest of the time we will be enjoying the balanced suspension, sharp handling, comfortable interior, and wonderful, free reving Duratec in our SVT's.
This thread is trying to compare apples to oranges, so it's not going to get anywhere!!
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