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its not a rated 271, cruise the the sti and evo forums. ive seen as fast as a 12.9 for an sti and 300 whp and 312 footpounds at the wheels with downpipe boost set to 16.8 and intake. most magazines ive seen give the sti a large advantage in the quarter mile and any straight speed test for that matter. although the evo would outhandle it.ive seen 2 evos break into the 13's here at our track which is a huge deal at 5600 feet. one ran a 13.8 stock and the other a 13.8 at 98 with boost and intake. so those times corrected are low 13's. i dont think theres a contour right now that in the quarter mile is going to be able to run a low 13 or as people on iclub have a high 12 in an sti. the its not a rated 271, cruise the the sti and evo forums. ive seen as fast as a 12.9 for an sti and 300 whp and 312 footpounds at the wheels with downpipe boost set to 16.8 and intake. most magazines ive seen give the sti a large advantage in the quarter mile and any straight speed test for that matter. although the evo would outhandle it.ive seen 2 evos break into the 13's here at our track which is a huge deal at 5600 feet. one ran a 13.8 stock and the other a 13.8 at 98 with boost and intake. so those times corrected are low 13's. i dont think theres a contour right now that in the quarter mile is going to be able to run a low 13 or as people on iclub have a high 12 in an sti. with the trap speeds ive seen for an evo or an sti and a turbo or s/c tour from a roll i think the tour could hang

Jeezus Ridebmx, I thought I was losing my mind for a minute! YOu just typed the same thing twice.

Motorweek's #s are always slow. They got mid to high 13s out of a ZO6 and a Cobra-R.
These 2 cars are the real deal. There's a vid floating around of an STI at an 1/8th mile track just destroying everything. Trap speeds are always a little lower in AWD cars anyway. But they've got 2-3 cars on you off the mark. Even IF you could get a Tour to match a stock STI or EVO, with 2 or 3 mods you're back to square one. Hope you've got deep pockets.

If only those cars weren't so blasted ugly.

-R-

Warmonger...thanks for "stroke"

The night I was at the track there were 2 EVO's...one stock, and one with an intake setup. Both drivers were familiar with the AWD platform as they had both previously owned GSX's. Both were very nice as their friend with a moderately modified WRX was...

The best run "I" saw was a 13.5xx at 99mph. Most of their runs were in the 14.0-14.2 range at around 95-98mph. Now I would figure that it's possible to mess up on the first trip to the track, but these guys were seasoned AWD pilots, and couldn't neccessarily "outshine" the Ol' 5psi SVT

I would've loved to have met up with them on the street for a little "rolling" action..

As for the 13.0 run that MT reported..I think that a very aggressive driver with no worries of broken parts(driveline)could muster those runs, but the "average" driver may not be on par...

Nonetheless, still very impressive cars, and if you're a reader of Motor Trend one could possible psych themselves out of the "zone" while running one....at the track of course.

If you want to talk about underrating a vehicle...talk about the SRT-4. I like them more and more every time I see one. They sound nasty as hell too.

yeah but the newest STi is really good looking, no round headlights looks good!!

Yes the Motor trend times are all out no BS driving.

They even state it took a 5000-5200rpm soft clutch slip to generate the best times. Missing that point dropped the times to the 13.4 range with either bog or wheel spin.

Still though 13 flat is fast no matter what excuse you through at it!


Yes the "neon" err... SRT-4 is a bone stock 13 second (13.8-13.9) FWD pocket rocket with decent handling. Can not fault it's abilities or its price.


Saturn is also releasing a hopped up ION. The Redline 2dr Ion with a 200+ HP/200TQ S/C 2.0L Ecotec & 6-spd. Expect it to be very quick and it looks pretty sharp too for a pocket rocket.

Expect the new J-body replacement to get an even more potent version of this engine!

Then there's the talk about the turbo charged DOHC V6 for the new Grand Am replacement. Ford is falling in the weeds and fast!!!

Sheeesh.
We have to mod the hell out of our cars just to be able to hang with the stock EVO and Sti's.

All really good points. I think the damned AWD is the deciding factor here in the WRX ad EVO's favor. That's why I think you are going to have to have considerably more power to beat these cars, but it should be doable.
Hell yes we have to mod the hell out of our cars to keep up, that is the nature of the technology game and its what we get for driving 3-6 year old sport sedans.
I'll take my 4.5 year old sport sedan any day though over a Neon, SRT or no! I like the EVO though, but alas I need to drive mine for a couple years before I get something new now that I sunk $ in it.
I have my heart set on an M5 or at least a top of the line 5 series for my next car!!