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#650787 06/02/03 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by Keyser:
83 mph IIRC and my clutch slipped in the first 2 gears.



Thats with your turbo Correct?


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You replied too quickly. I added that I was not N/A but that speed may help with comparison.


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Still just a 9.8.

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Originally posted by 1314:
Still just a 9.8.



Gotta love FWD.


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Originally posted by uwannarunthatshiz:
Here ya go. Movie will be after lunch. I have to edit first.




Well, you've got the slip, but I'm seeing a timing equipment "flake out". It's quite possible that a piece of debris, bird, and/or the trapspeed boxes just weren't reading consistently. It happens. There have been times at my track where my my 1/4 trapspeeds were a solid 3mph slower than normal and the same went for everyone else there that night too. My ETs and 1/8 traps were completely normal, but my traps were just a solid 3mph slow evne though I was crossing the finish line at the same MPH I always do.

Why do I say it's equipment problem? Because no NA CSVT is that fast in the 1/8th. Here's my reasoning:

1) Your ran a 9.8s to 10.4s with trapspeeds ranging from normal and believable 74s and then a freakish 76.7 and then a 78.1. Sorry, but unless you're the worlds worst shifter ever, it is nearly impossible for your trapspeeds to change on such a scale of +/- 4mph. Trapspeed changes very little in comparision to ET. My ETs might change .2 because of my 60', but my MPHs are always within .7mph.

2) 9.8s = ~15.2s and 10.4s = ~16.0s. 74mph traps suggest ~93mph traps for a CSVT because most CSVT gain 19-20mph in the last 1/8th mile. A 78mph trapspeed would suggest a 98mph trapspeed which is VERY hard for me to believe especially considering the car is running a 15.2@98mph">15.2@98mph</a> with a higher 2.3 60'. My Maxima (~195fwhp/195fwtq, 3170lbs with driver) consistently gains 21-22mph in the final 1/8 mile and gets 77mph in the 1/8 which nets 14.4s with 2.2/2.3 60 foots. Sorry, but there is no CSVT in this Org that is close to running <a href="mailto:14.4@98mph. DemonSVT might be close, but he's got extensive work done.

3) Like Demon said, it will take well over 200fwhp to 78mph in the 1/8 with a 3200lb (w/driver) CSVT. Seeing that the highly modified 2.5s are making ~185-190fwhp and 170fwtq, I have a hard time believing the 78mph trapspeed is accurate.


You've got the slips so you do have proof, but most of us know that is highly unreasonable that you're car really is that fast unless you've got nitrous/turbo/SC. I think it's an equipment problem.

Here's my homepage and you can see my timeslip for reference:

http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=259675&page=1


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My 78mph run was last run of the night. The car had cooled down atleast two hours and the temp outside was around 63. I thought at first it might have been an equip problem but my buddy with his 01GT was running 81,82mph traps. That is pretty much what he ran last year at a totally diferent track. I ran 73mph traps stock last year. I have a hard time thinking that there were equip problems all throught the night. I am not dimissing the eqipment problem that is why I will probably visit a diffrent track this weekend. I think my car is more than likely putting out around 180hp if I would have to guess.


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The run on tape
Heres the run. my buddy with his 01 gt is on there also for a reference point. He has 4.10's ,exhaust, steeda timing adj, Drag radials, pro3i Lowers, spec2 clutch, K&N. You will need divx to watch it. I didn't have time to edit so excuse the camera guy I think he was drunk.


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You sure that thing is not estimating your 1/4 mph? I would bet that is what is going on. The tracks all estimate speed and I would assume the same here. The times are pretty terrible for those mph if it is 1/8 mile mph. (not trying to flame, but thats the truth) I have slips of 15.5 at 85mph (damn headwind) The 60' is high too, a 2.2x is about the best NA tour runs w/o drag radials. So your .2 slow from the start.


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Just keep in mind that Trapps has a 10 second 1/4 mile time slip from his contour . . . Timing equipment does flake out from time to time, for one reason or another.


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Originally posted by uwannarunthatshiz:
My 78mph run was last run of the night. The car had cooled down atleast two hours and the temp outside was around 63. I thought at first it might have been an equip problem but my buddy with his 01GT was running 81,82mph traps. That is pretty much what he ran last year at a totally diferent track. I ran 73mph traps stock last year. I have a hard time thinking that there were equip problems all throught the night. I am not dimissing the eqipment problem that is why I will probably visit a diffrent track this weekend. I think my car is more than likely putting out around 180hp if I would have to guess.




Well judging from the fact that your trapspeeds changed heavily between runs, I think the trapspeed boxes were reading incorrectly on a random basis. I've had this happen to me a couple times. Until this year, the left lane at my track (KCIR) was a consistent 3mph slower than the right lane even though the ETs and 1/8 ET/MPH matched closely.

Your buddys 81-82mph traps seem very reasonable because I know Sam (owns a red SC'd CSVT) and his GT has basically the same mods and I believe he pulls 81-82mph traps in the 1/8th which equals 13.6-13.7s @ 102-103mph at the far end.


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