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I'm getting pretty sick of this guy. I've kept to myself to retain my sense of being a nice guy but now I'm getting irritated. First it's a good kit just too expensive. Now in 'their' opinion it should have gone 20 miles? I've got 15k+ on my car with a turbo. I wonder if Carson knows what a jackass his salesman looks like by changing his mind to suit the masses.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Actually running the larger injectors is not a good idea. You come up with a lot of drivability problems and bad efficiency since the majority of the time they are running at very sub par duty cycle.
Chris is running 30lb injectors and Tom is running 36lb injectors respectively. Their power numbers are well known. The injectors are not tasked in either case (especially Tom's)
Now running 42lb injectors to make much less peak HP (and peaky it will be with their stated turbo but that's another story) is serious overkill 90% of the time!
The ignorant crack about ease of tuning to run smaller injectors really shows the lack of knowledge on their part. The smaller injectors were picked for a specific reason. They supplied more than enough fuel (as well dyno proven and tested) and give great drivability and efficiency the other majority of the time you are not in heavy boost.
Tuning the A/F is tuning the A/F regardless of injector sizing. Intentionally picking oversized injectors for the application is what shows lack of tuning/design ability.
Hence I will be swapping 30's in.
I'm still baffled how people say there is no such thing as to big! I can't figure out when the EEC sends a 2ms pulswidth to a injector that is limited mechanically to 2.5ms (3.5ms on my lucas delhi injectors) it will run right! Bahh!! 
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Originally posted by SVTnKC:
Ripper..thanks for answering my question about the SC and Turbo thing! So.. all i've been able to find is the Vortec SC, where would one look for the EATON~? Thanks
Unfortunately there is no roots style blower kit for the contour. Look at any factory supercharged car (lightning, cobra, thunderchicken sc, gtp,...) they all have roots blowers because they have more usable power. They aren't set up like a turbo or vortech where the supercharger is on its own to some degree. Usually, you have an upper intake manifold with a mounting bracket on top for the eaton. It kinda makes the supercharger a part of the manifold. If you look under the hood of a contour, there is no clearance for it without a cowl-induction type hood. There was the eliminator cougar (I think that was the name) that had a roots style blower on it. do a search on the net or even ceg or neco for it.
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I'd have to disagree with that. A bit anyway.
I would say they have them because packaging the setup is much easier.
Also the low to midrange punch from a roots style blower has negligible lag and is usable in the most commonly used rpm range.
The first roots setup was released in a truck too. (Lightning) It was never meant to have to the crap spun out of the engine to make power (ala a centrifugal S/C) and a turbo setup entails a whole lot more work, parts, Heat, and engineering to produce.
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So far I'm still using the stock pump though I have t high pressure 255lph walbro pump at home, AND the 155lph vortech pump at home that I want to sell, both meant to replace the supposedly weak stock pump.
It true the stock pump won't support high pressures, mine makes gowling noises at fuel pressures above 65psi. However, my air fuel is spot on even up to 7000 rpm according to my new turbo graphs. So volume at the stock pressures of 55psi WOT seems to not be an issue. To be fair, my pump supported up to 80psi for a couple of hours one time, I tried the old screw in the regulator trick and to bump pressure, but I forgot to provide a vent for it and when it got hot the air pressure in it rose so high as to keep the regulator shut. Thats when it started to growl and grind. I keep thinking it will die any day now, but nope!
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
I would say they have them because packaging the setup is much easier.
Also the low to midrange punch from a roots style blower has negligible lag and is usable in the most commonly used rpm range.
I kind of worded that wrong. When I said it had more usable power, I meant in the low-mid range. Makes the driver feel like it is really powerful. I guess they are pretty simple too.
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Originally posted by nyceboi:
I have to side with imprtKLLR on this one. Mostly dude to the fact that my car is a lot of show and I need a swank engine bay   . After looking at the SF Kit, *as great as it is for what it does*, I can't help but be turned off by it aesthetically and decided to go for the Vortec Supercharger (notice my sig). I'm sure there are other people that feel the same way...
...it's a case of an ugly duckling who went out to kick everyone's ass but stayed ugly...
Now that this kit is comming out and pars price with the Vortec I'll wait and see what's going on - but with the new IC for the S/C comming out soon my project budget has to go up - but for looks I am going that route unless this turbo looks good.
If anybody has a Vortec for sale, i'll give you an entire body kit, hood and widebody plus install  or we can work something out.
I understand the need to dress up the engine bay, but don't you think that function comes first? My intercooler doesn't look anything like Keyser's because I started with a different core. I think it looks really good and with a little dress up it should show well. IF you want a certain look, just draw out the designs on paper until it looks cool, then send it over to see if he can make it. It is a 'custom' kit after all.
Don't worry, you will see how my intercooler looks pretty soon.
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