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Ironic that this is coming from the same guy who lamented on why people gave him a hard time, then he posts an atagonistic title like that.
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Originally posted by PackRat:
Ironic that this is coming from the same guy who lamented on why people gave him a hard time, then he posts an atagonistic title like that.
My sentiments exactly.
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FWIW Ford has already addressed the situation by relocating the bracket that penetrated the tank on these rare collisions...
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Sad as it is, I want to know why they flew 70+ miles to take the officer back to Columbia, MO (mile markers 124-128) when they could have flown less than 47 miles (give or take they were on the 47 mile marker) to get the officer to Kansas City, MO. (Mile markers 0-10 or there about)
I'm pretty sure they have trama centers and burn units in KC.
Might have made the difference.
While I have no great love (or hate) for Ford as a company, it is hard to see how ANY vehicle would not burst into flames after being hit by a truck towing a trailer, unless it ran on water...
TB
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Originally posted by 00ContourSE:
With all due respect to the loss of the numerous officer's lives due to these sort of incidents....
When are these sue-happy douchebag state attorney generals going to realize that if a stationary object, namely a gasoline filled automobile is struck by an object in motion to the tune of 55mph plus, namely another vehicle, there's most likely going to be an explosion, and yes anyone in the car is probably going to die? It's simple physics. I'd like to see these conditions replicated with other types of vehicles. I'll bet the same thing is going to happen. It's not Ford's fault if someone behind the wheel of a car is negligent enough to not notice a car's roof ablaze with strobe lights, and not think to stay clear of it. So to say "I hope Ford goes DOWN" is a very ignorant, poorly thought out statement.
My $.02
I agree... state troopers put themselves into far more dangerous positions than other vehicles... when was the last time you parked on the shoulder of a busy interstate for 10 minutes while sitting in your car.... and then repeating 10 times throughout the day, then another day, then another? You don't. And when 99% of all state troopers drive crown vics...... simple statistics tells us that golly.... a lot of those horrific crashes involve crown vics!! and gee darn, aren't they bad ones. I'll bet if a trooper put his camaro there and a semi rammed it and then rolled right over top of it, noone would be suing Chevy to make the camaros taller (ignore for a minute that they don't make them any more) I hate America's lawsuit happy public mindset... its bad for business, its bad for international PR, its bad for the legal system, and its just generally bad.   
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Originally posted by 00ContourSE:
With all due respect to the loss of the numerous officer's lives due to these sort of incidents....
When are these sue-happy douchebag state attorney generals going to realize that if a stationary object, namely a gasoline filled automobile is struck by an object in motion to the tune of 55mph plus, namely another vehicle, there's most likely going to be an explosion, and yes anyone in the car is probably going to die? It's simple physics. I'd like to see these conditions replicated with other types of vehicles. I'll bet the same thing is going to happen. It's not Ford's fault if someone behind the wheel of a car is negligent enough to not notice a car's roof ablaze with strobe lights, and not think to stay clear of it. So to say "I hope Ford goes DOWN" is a very ignorant, poorly thought out statement.
My $.02
You just saved me alot of typing. Couldn't agreee better
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nevermind on my last post, I missed that the officer was dead in the car, it was the passenger transported to Columbia, MO  TB
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First, of all, I am sorry for the family of the officer.
While it is a reasonable argument that no vehicle would withstand such a collision, it is not a new development that the vehicles explode when hit. It is KNOWN that the vehicles, due to their usage, have to sit on the shoulder numerous times per day, thus greatly increasing the risk of collision.
Therefore, it isn't unreasonable to expect the manufacturer to take steps to minimize the risk of puncture / fire in the event of a collision.
The PI Crown Vics have uprated cooling systems etc. due to their unique usage. Why is it so difficult to direct engineering resources to alleviate/minimize the fire risk in the event of a rear end collision for these cars ??
I am not trying to flame Ford, just trying to understand the issue.
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I think what compounds the problem of the bursting fuel tank is that the rear end of the car collapses and makes it impossible to open the front door for the trooper to get out. There was a story on Dateline (or another tv news magazine deal) a couple weeks ago about it. They talked about troopers being stuck in the car and burning alive; witnesses hearing the screams of the trooper and not being able to do anything. The trooper just couldn't get out of the car.
I have a feeling that any car would have troubles if it were hit from behind at a high rate of speed by another vehicle. Dateline mentioned one officer being killed after being rear ended by an 18 wheeler. They say the fire killed the trooper, but I have a feeling that the impact probably left him with life ending injuries as well.
People just need to slow the hell down and move over when they see a cop car on the side of the road. Indiana enacted some very tough laws a couple years ago after two troopers were killed on the side of the road. You gotta move over a lane from the emergency vehicle, or slow down ALOT. Penalty is pretty harsh if you don't and they catch up to ya.
Blame Ford all ya want, because they're the big evil corporation. But don't forget to go after the moron drivers that are more concerned with saving a few seconds than slowing down when they see a cop on the side of the road.
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Originally posted by PackRat:
Ironic that this is coming from the same guy who lamented on why people gave him a hard time, then he posts an atagonistic title like that.
Jarednt is here to troll and make fun of us here at CEG - his main argument seems to be that Ford sucks and by extension all the rest of us do too since we own Fords.
Maybe he should read this article. Mitsubishi is just as bad as Ford in my book:
http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_41/b3702244.htm
At the auto show in Jan. there were people distributing information on the cover-up right outside the EVO exhibit. Sucks for Mitsubishi ...
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