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#638873 05/20/03 11:23 AM
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what kind of power gains do they make?


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There is a dyno plot on the page:

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Their dyno plot has been a topic of much discussion around here. I would not expect their "claimed" gains at all.
I gained 11hp ~9tq w/ the headers and their y-pipe over stock manifolds and sho-y-pipe (w/ cat).
If I could ever find my dyno plots on my system, I would post them...(i'm at work right now). I don't have a "true" baseline...so I don't know what its like stock vs. headers w/ y-pipe...

As far as being more expensive.

not really.

if you consider he's giving you the option for "Jet-Hot" like coating for $40....that is SUPER cheap.
I paid $220 to get my headers/y-pipe coated. That right there is a high savings.

Take into consideration that SHO-Shop is selling just the headers (no y-pipe) for (iirc) $545....You are getting the y-pipe for $50!! Remember, these headers from MSDS go for $660 on their site....

Even if they do go up a little more, its still a good deal.
Also, I paid w/ a CC for security reasons, and that cost me some more $$$....This is a good deal - Same price as before (maybe a tad higher)


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Someone posted just recently the "NEW" coatings DO NOT WORK! How much uncoated?

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there have been multiple coatings...

the original coating plain and simple sucked....it was a ceramic coating that was worth about 3 cents.

the next coating was crap as well. Although Marty said the coating was thicker and better, it was not holding up either. A lot of people had issues with their coatings. I had this particular coating (which was the "NEW" one at the time). I had them Jet coated....

The "NEW" coating is an OPTION.....You must pay for their NEW OPTIONAL coatings. It is the same as Jet-Hot according to Marty and others who have seen it. This is what he is charging an extra $40 for. If you do not want it, you don't need to have it.

I hope that helps in explaining.....


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If it's like a "jet hot" coating count me in for sure!

Can you get the 'bigger' inlet MSDS headers?


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ok, whoever is in please add your name to the list:

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Quote:

Like Jet Hot





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