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Originally posted by Davo7SVT:
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You've dicked a lot of CEGers over, be it through your business practices, personal sabotage, or otherwise. Forgive Matt and I for not jumping on your bandwagon (as way too many of the Chicago CEGers have again) during your "return". When you dicked them over in August, the info from them was free-flowing about who you really are and what your intentions have been as they relate to CEG. Unfortunately most of them have hopped back on the Milan Express that I thought had taught them so many lessons around National Meet time.




Wow, did not know I possesed such mystical powers man! I must have telekinesis or something...

I mean, ARE YOU FOR REAL??? The guys here in Chicago are all adults who can make their own judgement calls. Don't insult them by saying that I somehow induced them into taking my side.

It's funny how both you and your buddy Matt claim that HATE had nothing to do with my car being left out, and yet both of you talk so much trash about me behind my back. The last time I remembered, neither one of you had something to say to me to my face... I wonder why that is...

What a lame attempt to cover up your own motives! Sad, trully sad...

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Originally posted by bk4293:
Originally posted by Davo7SVT:
Rule 7.5 -- Take hands off penis of guy that once screwed you over.




Ummmmm...OK
Maybe you missed my point, I am not speaking in favor of, nor am I speaking against Milan in this situation.




You're sig says otherwise. And you wonder why people might be led to believe that.


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Here we go again with you avoiding the point I have been trying for you to understand since this all occured.

Originally posted by Quicksilver:
THERE IS NO WAY IN GOD'S NAME THAT YOU WILL NOT CUT THROUGH THE SILVER WHEN CUTTING THE PLASTIC LENSES OFF!!!!!!!!! You need to understand this!!!!



Yes, but to hack into the chrome housings?
Others have already posted stating that they cut open the lights and didn't look nearly as bad as mine. I had even confirmed this long ago.

Originally posted by Quicksilver:
The ONLY way that the front lenses will come off is to cut them off. I had to do this because Pete asked me to do it.



Correct.

And I asked you several times if there would be ANY other "side effects" - you said NO.

Originally posted by Quicksilver:
I will post pics of my own lights, and then you can be the judge.



Ok, let's see the chrome housings and see if they are nearly as jagged and cracked as mine were.

Originally posted by Quicksilver:
I offered 4 times for Pete to send the lights back, and he REFUSED each time.



Correct.

Why would I sent the lights back to someone who just butchered them?

Originally posted by Quicksilver:
I NEVER HAD THE CHANCE to even try to remedy the situation.



Yes you did. I asked that you fix the chrome housings that you cracked. You said No.

Originally posted by Quicksilver:
Pete simply demanded that I refund money, after HE TRIED to fix the lights HIMSELF.



Another lie.

I never tried to fix the chrome housing or the wrecked silver trim.

I only tried to add some more silicone to seal them - which WAS NEVER THE ISSUE, MILAN. GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

Originally posted by Quicksilver:
EVERY TIME I asked him to send them back, he refused and asked for money back.



Correct.

Because all you EVER wanted to do is to reseal them.

YOU ADMITTED IN A PM THAT YOU ARE WRONG AND NEVER TOLD ME THAT CRACKING THE CHROME WOULD BE A SIDE EFFECT.

I did not ask for a full refund.

I asked that you refund me the money for the brand new OEM headlights and projectors. I would keep the HID kit.

I was trying to compromise.

FACTS:
My issue has always been about the cracked chrome.
You keep ignoring that fact and talking baout the leaking.
YOU LIED.
You came on here and questioned my integrity.
There are others that were/are not happy with your "workmanship" w/ the lights.
You pulled other underhanded/backstabbing crap unrelated to your projector sales.

End of story.

I'm done. The story will remain in my sig.


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Originally posted by SmoothSVT:
Originally posted by bk4293:
Originally posted by Davo7SVT:
Rule 7.5 -- Take hands off penis of guy that once screwed you over.




Ummmmm...OK
Maybe you missed my point, I am not speaking in favor of, nor am I speaking against Milan in this situation.




You're sig says otherwise. And you wonder why people might be led to believe that.




My Sig has nothing to do with what I posted in this thread. A bunch of us put that in without chacking with Milan first to see how many E-mails he would recieve. I do know Milan, I do consider Milan a friend, I have never talked bad about Milan. Milan has never screwed me over. The point I'm trying to get across here is that all of these people jump into this, and again with all due respect to both parties involved, this topic seems to be as resolved as it's going to get. If I lived anywhere near Rockville, MD I would probably be Petes friend too.
Why beat a dead horse. All this bickering isn't getting anybody anywhere.
I'm not asking anyone on the boards to choose sides, nor am I voicing an opinion, becuase to be totally honest I choose not to have an opinion.
For all of those that I have met in Person from Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee I consider you all friends, for those of you I never met in person from the rest of the world, but still have the same enthusiam for the Ford Contour that I do, well I consider you all friends too.
None of my posts go one way or the other, they just ask everyone to drop the public bickering. Thats all I posted before I got flamed. Hey guys, don't hate me becuase I live in Chicago near someone that you don't like, hate me for me!
That whole statement toward Chicago CEG was totally uncalled for and thats the part that got me going.
If you guys want to hate Milan, by all means feel free to do so, Hell, do so knowing that you have my blessings, but don't discriminate against all of us becuase you believe that one of us did wrong.

Citation was from Florida wasn't he, should we all hate everyone in Florida

This thread was dead for six months, let it rest in peace.



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Originally posted by bk4293:
The point I'm trying to get across here is that all of these people jump into this, and again with all due respect to both parties involved, this topic seems to be as resolved as it's going to get. If I lived anywhere near Rockville, MD I would probably be Petes friend too.
Why beat a dead horse. All this bickering isn't getting anybody anywhere.



bk,
Though I have never met them, I have made good friends from throughout the country - including Chicago/Illinois.

I PMd Milan asking him to NOT talk about this topic publicly anymore. He agreed.

Then he replied regarding this subject - he just couldn't resist.

I like to think I have a good reputation on the boards.

I am a very generous and forgiving person as long as the offender understands what he/she did is wrong, admits to it and apologizes/rectifies the situation. I help people with mods, offer advice, organize Group Buys, make large group orders, pick up orders from SPMotorsports for people, etc. I seriously doubt Milan could say the same.

If anyone doubts my generosity or integrity, drop in on the Capitol CEG and make a post.


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It would be really easy if people would just blindly hate me. But you know what? It does not work that way!

I have yet to receive any hate mail, which is not that big of a surprise.

The guys here in Chicago, they have their own will. They saw my lights in person, as recently as last Sunday. I was accused by certain people of cutting corners in the lights that I sold... Nonesense! Why would I cut corners on something that I was making and possibly face exactly what did take place when one situation went horribly wrong? If anything, I took extra care for the copies that I made for others, as it was work for the discriminating eyes of a person paying good money.

Were there setbacks in other sets? Probably. I made it a mission to stay in touch with each and every person that had the lights made. From Washington to Texas, From Florida to Alberta. EVERY PERSON! Each pair that found a home had a complete backing from me. I spoke to Suneil alone at least 4 times regarding some issues that he had with his blown HID capsule. I did all I could to send him in the right direction, and the man has never been angry at me. Roger R had me install his lights on his Tour, and he is happy as well. I installed his light on my own will, at no charge. I did this to alleviate some concerns that he had installing them. So I figured, the man spent a lot of money, it was the least I could do... In Pete's case, we just couldn't find a common ground to agree on. He felt I was being unreasonable, and I felt he was being stubborn. It was a fallout that resulted in all of this.

Lastly, NONE of the lights that I made were perfect. NONE! And that includes the set on my car. It is impossible to make them perfect. I will post some fresh pics of my own set as soon as I get a chance. They are great, but imperfections do exist, though you have to look real closely to see them.

To those that just want to see me flamed and hated, I advise you to look into the mirror and ask yourself what you're getting out of it.

But you can never extinguish free will, and that is the EXACT reason that people on this site will not be tricked into believing something that is untrue, and more importantly, malicious behavior aimed at desmerging someones character.

I never said Pete is a bad guy, and I am sure he is not. I never had a problem with him, nor do I have one with him now. For that matter I never had a problem with a single CEGer - EVER!

I am sure whatever Pete writes is what he believes is the truth, and I also write what I believe is the correct version of the same story. That is all.

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That last post should just about close this, I'm not a moderator, but it's time this gets locked. Milan's car looks great, it didn't make the calendar, but water under the bridge, like Pete and Milan said, this should be dealt privately. . .let's not make CEG a bipartisan deal, ok guys?

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Case closed.


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Originally posted by ssmumich00:
I'm not a moderator, but it's time this gets locked.




Yes, can a moderator please end this unnecessary deja vu already?


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...eitherway the guy that got stuck for $1000 on his lights is a better person than me. that's too much loot to just chalk it up to the game.


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