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The rave cave was kinda confusing but to me it looked like they were partying like it was 1999. All of Zion seemed to be releasing their 'tension'.



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That was the worst scene of the movie. I hated it. No point at all.

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3. It seems that Morphoeus skills have gotten weaker since the first film. He was barely able to dispatch that weak ass agent. I see a problem here.





At first I thought that too but if remember that Morpheus told Neo in the first Matrix, everyone that has stood against an Agent died. I expected Morpheus to be better than he was, but just as he kept getting better so did the agents and remember they were upgrades. Every time Neo or Trinity got in trouble it was Neo that saved them.




If i recall correctly..morpheus got his ass kicked by Smith in the first 1...and then the SWAT punded him... so it would seem that his skill has increased since he actually managed to hit 1 down...

did u see the 2nd one and then see the first one and then believe the first 1 was the 2nd one? cause im not following


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i think that neo infact might be part machine. if u look at it the guy infected by smith, is part machine. now he survived the attack, ok cool. if look at the part where neo supposably stops the sentienals from a different view. u can tell that maybe the mother hen ship used its emp thus neo calsped because he is part machine. and the infected guy also is part machine and is infect by emp.

this is what i just thought. but this might be contradicting wiht the first movie as they used the emp in that and neo didnt go into coma.


but another answer is that neo and smith are now sort of same thing, their powers transfered between them.

we will just have to wait for the next movie.


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Very good point. What if Neo and the Smith/Human are MORE machine because , of course Smith came from the Matrix , and Neo uses all of those nifty powers. Maybe that made them more machine , and thus more suseptible(sp) to the EMP. That could explain away the other EMP usage , and why it doesnt effect Trinity or any of the other WakeUps either.

PS- Yes , we are digging too far into this , but its fun.

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ive done more thinking, and i do truely believe that theres a matrix within in the matrix. alot of things have been pointing to this. the spoon thing, and other things that have been mentioned by other cegers. but to add to what they have said, the name matrix explains it also.

mathematical matrixes have more then 1 level it is a array of numbers in the movie it can be a array or worlds. so im guessing that is y the movie is given the name the matrix in the first place, its a world with in a world. more then 1 level to a world.


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that is true that is the definition of a matrix.. but I don't believe it is that in depth to tell you the truth.. you are thinking too into it, just complicates things. A Matrix can be any size 2X1 2X2 or ever infiniteXinfinite... just the fact that it is the matrix doesn't imply anything else than what we already know.


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Originally posted by gSto:

If i recall correctly..morpheus got his ass kicked by Smith in the first 1...and then the SWAT punded him... so it would seem that his skill has increased since he actually managed to hit 1 down...

did u see the 2nd one and then see the first one and then believe the first 1 was the 2nd one? cause im not following




Morpheus did get better as far as fighting skill from the first movie to the second. What I'm saying is that the Agents did too. If you noticed the Agent was putting it on him pretty good during the fight on top of the truck. But if Neo wasn't there to save their buttz the Agents would've killed Morpheus, the Key maker, and Trinity at some point in time during the movie. But everytime just when it was about to end for them Neo came through. He's also the only one that could fight as long as he wanted and then get out / fly away when he wanted. The others basically had to run to a hard wired line and hope they could get there and get out before they got killed.


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your absolutely right, i thought about that too, it is getting into it too much. but hey, the more i think about it, i like reloaded. when i got out of it movie theather i was a bit disappointed. now i kinda like it.


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I wasn't disappointed at all.. I loved it.. there were some scenes that sucked.. but I like to think of movies on a whole scale.. I was worried throughout that the movie was going to be like "final destination 2" where they said FUGG the plot and the uniqueness of the idea of the movie and just make the action kick ass.. I hate that.. sure the action is sweet.. but you need a plot to get me thinking while I am watching... turned out to all come together though.


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