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I thought the fight with the smith's was kind of gay... he fought them for like 20 minutes and then decided to fly away.. why didn't he just fly away to begin with?? but it was cool when he was hitting them all with that pole..

I loved the smith scene and the highway scene. I like how Neo can do so much, but its kinda disappointing that Laurence Fishburne can't. What else..

uhh yah that foreign girl persephone, is hot.

Someone said something about at the end when Neo stopped the machines in the "real world". From what I saw, I thought he did too, but right after he falls, you'll notice that "mother hen" ship or w/e its called, and it has EMP weapons on it. I percieved that Neo didn't really do it, rather the ship did just in time. Then again, its the matrix.. who knows!

All in all i thought it was a good movie, I liked the plot of the first one better though. And the sex scenes sucked. It was so pointless. So they love eachother, I think i coulda gone to the bathroom, concession stand, and back and still be in the sex scene. Plus i didn't want to see Neos arse. lol.

Good observation...when I go see it the 2nd time I am going to have to pay attention and see if the other ship still has power or not. That would be the true way to tell if it was the EMP. Since the EMP kills the ship also, at least temporarily.

Somehow Neo and Smith are now connected, they can sense each other. Agent Smith was the only person to survive the attack on Zion, and is also in a coma at the end of the movie along side Neo. I believe Smith survived doing the same thing Neo did to the machines. I think Smith wanted out of the Matrix so badly (think back to the interrogation of Morpheus) that he managed to rewrite parts of his own program, and kept existing despite Neo decopiling his program. I think ultimately, it was this that will be the downfall of the machines, they did not anticipate Smith developping that urgency for freedom and now both he and Neo can destroy the machines. He wants to destroy the humans as well though. Remember, he hates humans, they are a virus, he also hates the Matrix because he was trapped in it. It seems as though he wants a worls free of humans, and therefore free of the matrix.

The other thoery is that they are all still in the Matrix, and they were again lied to. Remember Neos power was deliberately given to him so that eventually he would be led to the architect, it was all done by design. It's possible the matrix has layers of "truths" so that should any human suspect and become free, they will never truly awaken from the Matrix. Neo views the Matrix in green numbers flying around, but maybe he doesn't view the "outside" part of the matrix that way. This really added to the movie for me.

Special effects, some scenes sure looked like CG, but try to think of any other fight scenes as fun and cool as these were. The movie was essentially perfect.

I'm too tired to read all this! I'd hit it!

It'll be interesting to see if Neo keeps his powers in the 'real world' or if the 'real world' is really another part of the matrix somehow. Either way, I do think he was changed or something changed after his meeting with the architect. When they were getting off the ship and the sentinels came he said "something's changed I can feel them" and there was clearly something that happened to him as a result of their confrontation. The possibilities are entertaining.

btw how did morpheus get out of the building when Neo went in to see the architect? All those agents were still in the hallway and the key maker was dead. When Neo flew out the building he was no where to be found. But he ended up back on the ship.

My question is how is Naobi still in Revolutions when she was killed in Reloaded....

Honkeytonk: I don't think your first theory quite works. Since it looks like there is a major battle between Agent Smith and Neo in Revolutions I don't see how they could be on the same side. Also he did almost try to kill Neo in Reloaded. But maybe his flaw in the matrix allowed Neo to break the infinite loop of The One created by the Architect.