my ATX beat an older RS V6 and depending on which is which, the 3.4L V6 Camaro is slow as hell running 18s, and the 3.8 isn't that much better depending, yet my friend has his 3.8L v6 ATX running low 15s maybe a high 14, with a few mods, and low 13's on 75 shot. so watch out...