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For some reason my friend thinks the RSX will beat an SVT but I'm not hearin it.
he then proceeded to say things like "a v6 with only 200 HP" and "Hondas and Acuras can rev to 8000 rpm only revs to about 5000 rpm"
I was scared he was gonna bring up hp per liter next...
anyway, what wins? a stock Acura RSX Type S or a stock Contour SVT?
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you have some pros and cons in this situation so ill just list them. Pros Contour: -More Torque -better "balance of power" Cons: -You (your car  ) weigh(s) more -your car has a wheel hop problem unless you have mods...im not sure you could beat him, it would be close. -
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Do a web search for dyno plots of Acura RSX's and then find out the weights. That will tell you a great deal. The SVT motor has one of the flattest and widest torque curves available in a NA motor. The honda's are always good on peak power, put the whole story comes with comparison of torque curves.
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I just found a dyno graph. Pretty flat curve and a nice step-up in torque when the v-tech kicks in. Though I must say the torque is only in the 125 ft-lb range. Base power stock was 164 wheel HP and with a borla exhaust 176HP. That is very comparable stock for stock to an SVT. Not bad when the car is so small, I would guess that it is around 2600#. I say you'd probably loose if your SVT is stock and if you haven't done any weight reduction, but not by much. I'm thinking half -> one carlength at the top of 2nd gear. If you're decently modded and can drive, my money's on the SVT.
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RSX S destroys a SVT. There 0-60 is 6.1 seconds as measured by Car and Driver.
Cars are light (2800lbs) and quick, yes they rev to 8000rpm. Test drove one two weeks ago. Unbeleivably quick.
Of course real world driving has lots of factors but bench racing: stock for stock RSX S wins!
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This is BU||sh|t! You say "destroys" because car and driver got a good run out of them? I've just looked at over 10 different dyno's and all of them are showing after quite a few mods the things only pulling 129 torque and 175 HP at best! With only 200-300 pound weight savings if "destroys" the svt...  Don't forget the svt kills it with over 30 lb-ft of torque through most of its rev's. I could understand if you said a BMW M-5 or Camaro SS or covette "destroys" the SVT, but c'mon.
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Well my opinion, but the average time on these boards is around 15.7 for a SVT bone stock and non race driver. I have to think the RSX S with the same driver stock, will rund more than a 1/2 second if not more faster. 30lbs of TQ is nice on our end but the 300lb weight difference makes up a lot of that. Here are the timeslips: http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=567618#post567618/
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Some of the New England folks shared a dyno get together with the RSX club and the stock Type S's were putting down low to mid 170's at the wheels on a consistant basis. Take the weight difference and power to the wheels vs. better torque in the SVT and you have a pretty close race.
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average time on these boards is around 15.7 for a SVT bone stock and non race driver
That's a very high average, I'd say more in the 15.2-15.4, and I don't think anyone here or on the RSX boards are race car drivers (i.e. useless comment) .
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