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Originally posted by Andrew:
Hi Unisys,
I saw some inferences to differences in the '98 and earlier versions of the CD4E, and was wondering if you could shed some light on them, as you seem to have researched these quite thoroughly.
1. Are there differences beyond the pump design?
2. If so, what?
3. Are all 98-on ATX's equally strong, or are 98's the best choice?
Thanks for sharing the fruits of your research with the rest of us...
Andrew
Ok! Andrew I have felt really bad about not being able to answer your question, so here goes
Clutch Plates
94-95 Friction - Direct
96-Up Friction - Direct / High Energy material
94-96 Coast Clutch
97-Up Coast Clutch / High Energy material
94 Steel - Direct - .078 - 3/4(qty)
95-96 Steel - Direct - .118 - 3(qty)
Pressure Plates
94-97 Coast
98-Up Coast (redesigned)
94-98 w/o Forward Wave Plate
98-Up w/ Forward Wave Plate
Hard Parts
94 Pump Gears - .567 thick
94-Up Pump Gears - .603 thick
94-96 Pump Wear Plate 1st design
97-Up Pump Wear Plate 2nd design (will retro back)
94-98 Input Sprag - Wide Sprag (up to 1/98)
98-Up Input Sprag - Narrow Sprag (from 1/98)
Drive Chain:
94-Up 2.0L Ford Contour - 3/4" Wide - 45 Links - E.T. Guides - 55T Drive/50T Driven
94-99 2.5L Ford Contour - 1" Wide - 46 Links - E.T. Guides - 55T Drive/54T Driven
00-Up 2.5L Ford Contour - 3/4" Wide - 46 Links - E.T. Guides - 55T Drive/54T Driven
94-Up 2.0L Mazda/Probe - 3/4" Wide - 46 Links - E.T. Guides - 55T Drive/54T Driven
94-96 2-4 Servo Piston (1st design)
97-98 2-4 Servo Piston (2nd design) 4mm Shorter
94-96 Servo Spring (1st Design)
97-98 Servo Spring (2nd Design) Green in color
94-98 Coast Clutch Piston (1st Design)
98-Up Coast Clutch Piston (2nd Design)
94-98 Drum - Forward/Direct
98-Up Drum - Forward/Direct w/Forward Wave Plate
94-98 Spring - Forward - Piston Return - 1st Design - (to 1/98)
98-Up Spring - Forward - Piston Return - 2nd Design - (1/98-Up)
94-98 Piston - Forward - 1st Design - (to 1/98)
98-Up Piston - Forward - 2nd Design - (1/98-Up)
94-96 Valve Body - Various Models
97-Up Valve Body - Various Models
94-Up 55T/50T - .625 Wide - 26T Sun Gear - 2.0L Contour
94-Up 55T/54T - .625 Wide - 26T Sun Gear - Probe, 2.5L Contour 00-Up
94-99 55T/54T - .855 Wide - 26T Sun Gear - 2.5L Contour
Electrical Componets
94-97 Sensor - Input (Pump) Beige w/green connector (Probe/Mazda)
94-Up Sensor - Input (Pump) Beige w/black connector (except Probe/Mazda 94-97)
94-Up Solenoid Block Assembly - High Resistance (this will retro back, but older low resistance will not)
Phillip Jackson
`98 Mystique LS
262K+ and counting...
ATX rebuilt @ 151K
"This storm has broken me, my only friend!" RIP Dime
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Well fellas, I got my car back today! Holy Cow what a difference! I have no way, right now, to cross reference the part numbers they used on the work order. I would like to, but I guess it is not nesscary right now. I put about 150 miles on it today with no problems. It looks like I will be putting about the same on it tomorrow. I am really glad that it is all over, but at the sametime, sad. Why? I have actually had alot of fun researching all this.
So I guess I wont stop.
I am currently in the process of putting together a website that will house all the information and links that I have gathered. Not only will it allow me the chance to update my out dated page, it will give me a chance to put together alot of information that passes across these boards. I have 6 pages together right now, so I might go ahead and put it up sometime this week or this weekend. But there is alot more that will need to be added. I would of course like to shot it by Roadrunner first and get his comments, additions, ideas and corrections where needed.
Don't expect anything flashy or fancey! It is just a plain simple site. Very dial-up friendly, because it is plan black and white. I want to make this the site as close to the kind of site I was looking for when I started my search for information on the CD4E so many months ago. Not a site that will answer all your questions, but give you enough information to empower a car owner so that they do not get shafted like I did or to just simply learn more about a transmission that is so misunderstood.
As for this thread... We should keep it going based on Roadrunners original reasons for placing it here. If I or anyone else comes across information on newly avaliable parts for the CD4E, place the info here. That way we can keep track of rebuild info relavent to the CD4E.
Phillip Jackson
`98 Mystique LS
262K+ and counting...
ATX rebuilt @ 151K
"This storm has broken me, my only friend!" RIP Dime
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Just thought I would post here that I just added a ton of new links to my site and thought I would share. http://www.geocities.com/yyz81/cd4e/links.html Some are general articles relating to transmissions, other are some up to date articles on the CD4E. Enjoy! 
Phillip Jackson
`98 Mystique LS
262K+ and counting...
ATX rebuilt @ 151K
"This storm has broken me, my only friend!" RIP Dime
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Thanks for the good info on your website.
I just bought a 95 Contour with this tranny and 162,000 miles and it seems okay -- fingers crossed!
My friend has a '98 Contour (same tranny) and in less than a year (100,000 miles) she is currently ungoing an agony when suddenly it developed drivability problems and the dealer says she needs a new $2500 tranny! At the moment it's at another shop getting checked.
1995 Contour GL "GEX"
2.0 Liter 4-banger
ATX
162,500 miles
Stock except for two '89 Tempo wheel covers & two VERY COOL cosmic looking '76 Toyota Corona wheel cover
Full size spare
No rust
Green
Purchase price: $500
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Phil, d'ya know how much is for the RCP96-104 Clutch Pack�® Set 97-UP w/ High Energy Coast & Direct?
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I just had my Tranny Rebuilt by a pretty reputable shop in the area.
Shifting like it's brand new! $2200.00 all told. About $1400 was labor!
Not happy about dropping the cash into it, but happy to have it back running. I also had a Hayden cooler put on it based on recomendations in this forum! Putting 80+ miles on a day, so I hope to get at least another 18 months out of the 'stique.
'97 Mercury Mystique GS (Not mine anymore...)
Now running a Toyota Matrix XR
Red, 16" wheels, Sunroof, VVT-i
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I bought my stique with a bad auto tranny at the auction. It had 146K miles and drove but 2nd and 4th were gone. I swapped mine out for a manuel and its been 3k miles since and all is well. So has anyone gotten more then 146k miles out of there atx?
ATX MTX swap, rear drum disc swap, drilled rotors, ported intake, optim throttle body, CAI, 7.5L MAF, adj. fuel regulator, longtube headers, underdrive pulley, no EGR, low inpedence bigger injectors, 2002 Focus Swap
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148,000 here -
getting a used put in for now...
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Since everyone seems in the spirit of posting their mileage, I will post mine... Since all the hassales, outlined above, I have about 50K on mine and still happy. Well, happy enough for now! 
Phillip Jackson
`98 Mystique LS
262K+ and counting...
ATX rebuilt @ 151K
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The most recent update on mine as follows: The bill came up to $1,925 ($1,850 as agreed + tax). The bill reads like this: "Transmission removed and overhauled. Replaced Cracked Drum. Install Overhaul Kit. Replaced Gaskets and Seals. Install New Fluid and Tested. Six Months or Six Thousand Miles Warranty."What's overhaul kit, who is the manufacturer of this kit, what parts this kit features, what about TC? Oh well... 
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