I thought so!!! that's what I told a salesman in Circuit City!! He asked what I was looking for, and I said 6X8's. I would install them myself, so I wouldn't buy them there, but my girlfriend was looking at a new cell phone, so i was trying to kill some time. he asked what they were for, and I told him....he was like" 6X8's won't fit your application, the mounting holes in the dooor are too small. I thought he was wrong......Any ideas on really high-end speakers?? I would like something with at least 90Db's of sensitivity....