Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
I don't see your argument?? If you move the pivot point like with the steeda, where it is shorter on top and longer on the bottom. Then a smaller "throw" from the top with cause a larger movement on the bottom. This is not so with the b&m which is in reality a "chopped" shinny stock shifter. Levers and pulleys man.



You are exactly right, the steeda should allow more movement on the bottom. Let us not forget that the amount of travel required by the transmission to shift the gear is the same in any case. Can we also agree that without internal modification to the transmission then it MUST always remain the same, regardless of what shifter is installed?

Let me make two points.
1.) I am pointing out that the b&M must have less travel than stock because it has a shortened arm. As you say, simple levers and pulleys man.

2.) The steeda will probably allow an even shorter throw since the bottom will move the same amount as allowed by the transmission, but the top will move less to accomplish this same amount of movement.

So I agree with you that the steeda is a short throw, and I think it is probably a shorter throw than the B&M. What I disagree with is that you keep saying the B&M is NOT a true short throw shifter. IF as you say, 'its simple levers and pulleys man' then you will see that the B&M is also a true short throw shifter because it has a shorter upper lever arm with the same lower lever arm as stock. How can that be disputed? Its simple to see if you draw it out on paper.

warmonger




I agree with you, the actual shift box on the tranny ain't gonna move any more regardless of what the stick looks like that's moving it. I don't remember insisting that the b&m wasn't a 'true' short throw, although others in this thread have stated that. I guess my closing opinion is that if I were to invest in a shifter other than stock (which I'll be doing real soon) I would opt for the model that achieved what I could not do by simply cutting down my stock stick. It appears we agree, but have varying opinions which is cool chit IMO.