iam a newbie and feel u.i have a 97 se with 420 time on my cel and i have 84650k so it is time to gut the cats and put in the mil for me. also have the oil leak cant find just where from and p/s that make the front of the block wet dont know if it is pump or if is a line???? But i have to say that i love my tour i think your right about the boys at ford talking about the precats and the 8/80 warrentys there is a lot of us out they with gutted cat in 1 way or another.