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Cut the junk food (i.e. fast food, restaurants, pop or any other procesed food), stay with the basics, work out (light wieghts) intensively up to 1 hr every day (on doctor's advice of course). If you need to, start out 20 min per day working your way up.

Make your own lunches. Try buy organic meats as the junk in most shops is loaded with growth hormones and antibiotics. Drink lots of water.

Bottom line, keep it simple, within reason and AVOID processed or any other restaurant foods / drinks. Walk when you can. OH..and very little refined sugar.

That's my two cents worth.

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I deal with people on the " STEM FAST" diet on a daily basis. True, it works great. It has a few side effects..
You lose your teeth,burn your fingers, and your breath smells like you ate a sh*t sandwich w/o the bread!
I did the EAS "body for life" challenge about a year ago.
Lost about 12 pounds but lost crazy inches. It is strict but it works. I dropped about 4 percent body fat. Got lazy, put on some butter..thinking of doing it again. Lots of water.. smaller more frequent meals!


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Originally posted by 18psi2300:

Also, lose the Slimfast, it's damn near all sugar! Look more into eating 5-6 small, nutrient-balanced meals. It keeps your metabolism moving...don't bother counting daily calories, your body and metabolism work on a 3-5hour basis.

Good luck!



It doesn't matter if it is sugar. A calorie is a calorie, regardless of where it comes from. As long as you achieve a caloric deficit (burning off more than what you put in) you will lose weight.

On the subject of ephedrine, I have used it in the past with results but it was hard to measure those results because I was doing so many other things like exercising regularly and eating much healthier. If you went from not working out and eating bad to 2 slimfasts and a dinner, of course you are going to notice weight loss, regardless of the ephedrine. I found that ephedrine suppressed my appetite so I didn't want to eat as much and it also gave me the energy to get through my workouts better. Just drink plenty of water when you take that stuff

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Originally posted by 18psi2300:
Originally posted by tomtoursvt:




Yeah that's why I said "all sugar", not "all carbs"



Hate to tell you this, but sugar isn't necessary bad. The body breaks everything down to simple sugar to use as energy. To those seeking weight loss I recommend getting a personal trainer not just because I am one, but because it really is the safest way to do it. I know a lot of people can't afford it but look at it this way. If you could spend $500-1000 dollars this year to get your body looking the way that you would like and learn the tools to keep it that way, would it be worth it?

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Originally posted by NorMich99SE:
OK, I'll admit to be completely ignorant on any of this, is Stacker2 (or3) epedrine? What level of risk is there in short term use, say a few months? I never thought this stuff would actually work, but if it does with only a small risk, I might look into it, I'd like to drop about 15-20 lbs, would this be a good option in the opinion of the CEG health people?



NO!!! The thing about ephedrine is that it isn't a wonder miracle drug. As I stated in a previous post, I have used it in the past, but I was also made a commitment to regular cardio workouts and eating better. It will definately give you energy which can help you lose weight because it will enable you to work out for longer at an elevated heart rate which will burn more fat. That is also why it can be dangerous because if you are deconditioned you to be careful as to how intensley you work out. To all of those looking to lose weight I will give you some simple info. 1 pound of body fat = 3500 calories. If you can achieve a caloric defecit of 500 calories a day, you will lose a pound a week. In 4-5 months time your 15 to 20 lbs can be gone. if you jog at moderate intensity for half an hour a day you will burn 250 calories. Eliminate a can of soda for another 150 (or booze on the weekends) and your almost there. I challenge anyone to quit drinking for 2 weeks and watch the pounds come off easy!

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Originally posted by tomtoursvt:
Your right.
Dieting and working out go hand in hand. Diet is more than half your results. You really are what you eat

Supplements are a great way of supplementing your diet(multi-vitamins, essential fats, protein powder,etc.) They should not take the place of nutrient dense foods and good old fashion work!!



I agree but to add to this, the average person shouldn't need supplements, they should be able to get all the nutrients they need if they eat a well balanced diet. Athletes are typically ones in need of supplements such as protein, for increasing muscle size and strength

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Originally posted by DJ Capp 911:
Originally posted by NorMich99SE:
OK, I'll admit to be completely ignorant on any of this, is Stacker2 (or3) epedrine? What level of risk is there in short term use, say a few months? I never thought this stuff would actually work, but if it does with only a small risk, I might look into it, I'd like to drop about 15-20 lbs, would this be a good option in the opinion of the CEG health people?



NO!!! The thing about ephedrine is that it isn't a wonder miracle drug. As I stated in a previous post, I have used it in the past, but I was also made a commitment to regular cardio workouts and eating better. It will definately give you energy which can help you lose weight because it will enable you to work out for longer at an elevated heart rate which will burn more fat. That is also why it can be dangerous because if you are deconditioned you to be careful as to how intensley you work out. To all of those looking to lose weight I will give you some simple info. 1 pound of body fat = 3500 calories. If you can achieve a caloric defecit of 500 calories a day, you will lose a pound a week. In 4-5 months time your 15 to 20 lbs can be gone. if you jog at moderate intensity for half an hour a day you will burn 250 calories. Eliminate a can of soda for another 150 (or booze on the weekends) and your almost there. I challenge anyone to quit drinking for 2 weeks and watch the pounds come off easy!




It takes a little more then that. First off you have to find out how many calories you need to consume just for you to maintain your current body weight, then you can start dropping calories. Forget jogging.. that is so lame. I suggest 10-15 minutes of HIT cardio. Trust me for the first 2 months you will not be able to do 15 mins. I started working out last august weighing in around 280 now I am down to 205 with muscle.

Here are some tips..
1. Kill the soda's.
2. Kill the beer.
3. Weight training is your friend.
4. Each body is different... REMEMBER THAT!
5. Get use to eating tuna and chicken breast.

6. I pwnz you all! j/k

To behonest it is a life changer. I feel better, I look better. Hell, I even think better.


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Originally posted by DJ Capp 911:
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It doesn't matter if it is sugar. A calorie is a calorie, regardless of where it comes from. As long as you achieve a caloric deficit (burning off more than what you put in) you will lose weight.




You are %100 wrong on this one. The insulin spikes caused by eating sugary foods have a huge effect on your metabolism...

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When blood-sugar levels are optimal, the body uses more fat for fuel and less sugar. Optimal blood-sugar levels, and the benefits such as fat-burning that go along with them, are easily attained by paying careful attention to what you eat. Low-glycemic meals and snacks containing balanced macronutrients -- carbohydrate, protein and fat - help maintain optimal blood-sugar levels.


On the other hand, eating meals and snacks with a high glycemic index or which contain too much carbohydrate can easily disrupt blood-sugar balance. This can prompt excess insulin production, which in turn may lower blood sugar too drastically.

In the short run the result of eating high-glycemic foods is low physical and mental energy, decreased fat-burning, increased fat storage and often cravings, usually for more carbohydrates. If you give in to these cravings you simply refuel the cycle. And if you don't eat anything at all, you just feel worse. In the long term, the repeated overproduction of insulin may also lead to serious diseases such as diabetes.


Obviously the reduced energy levels and weight gain can have negative effects on your day-to-day life. The better choice is to maintain optimal blood-sugar levels by consistently fueling your body with low-glycemic, balanced-macronutrient meals and snacks.




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Any substance that's abused is bound to cause serious health problems. Unfortunately, people blame the substance and not the abuser.

BTW, I lost more weight removing sugar from my diet than I did by taking Stacker 3. That stuff used to make my morning go by very quickly though!

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Originally posted by Antonio:
Originally posted by DJ Capp 911:
Originally posted by NorMich99SE:
OK, I'll admit to be completely ignorant on any of this, is Stacker2 (or3) epedrine? What level of risk is there in short term use, say a few months? I never thought this stuff would actually work, but if it does with only a small risk, I might look into it, I'd like to drop about 15-20 lbs, would this be a good option in the opinion of the CEG health people?



NO!!! The thing about ephedrine is that it isn't a wonder miracle drug. As I stated in a previous post, I have used it in the past, but I was also made a commitment to regular cardio workouts and eating better. It will definately give you energy which can help you lose weight because it will enable you to work out for longer at an elevated heart rate which will burn more fat. That is also why it can be dangerous because if you are deconditioned you to be careful as to how intensley you work out. To all of those looking to lose weight I will give you some simple info. 1 pound of body fat = 3500 calories. If you can achieve a caloric defecit of 500 calories a day, you will lose a pound a week. In 4-5 months time your 15 to 20 lbs can be gone. if you jog at moderate intensity for half an hour a day you will burn 250 calories. Eliminate a can of soda for another 150 (or booze on the weekends) and your almost there. I challenge anyone to quit drinking for 2 weeks and watch the pounds come off easy!




It takes a little more then that. First off you have to find out how many calories you need to consume just for you to maintain your current body weight, then you can start dropping calories. Forget jogging.. that is so lame. I suggest 10-15 minutes of HIT cardio. Trust me for the first 2 months you will not be able to do 15 mins. I started working out last august weighing in around 280 now I am down to 205 with muscle.

Here are some tips..
1. Kill the soda's.
2. Kill the beer.
3. Weight training is your friend.
4. Each body is different... REMEMBER THAT!
5. Get use to eating tuna and chicken breast.

6. I pwnz you all! j/k

To behonest it is a life changer. I feel better, I look better. Hell, I even think better.



Just to clarify, I said Caloric Deficit, which implies that you are going 500 calories below what you need to maintain. To elaborate on your points, I couldn't agree more with #3. Just losing weight doesn't always cut it. Adding some lean musclemass on in the right places can visually improve your looks, and most studies state that adding 1lb of muscle burns of 50 more calories a day when you are simply at rest so by adding that mass you are making your body a more effective fat burner

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