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Re: 1998.5 svt vs 2002 celica gt-s #603635 04/22/03 09:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 260 Orlando U unknown_dup1 CEG\'er
unknown_dup1 CEG\'er U Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 260 Orlando	Originally posted by SeR Guy1: Hate to say it but a Celica GT-S.. Stock Vs. Stock will win everytime drivers being equal. You better be a darn good driver to beat one. I own a 2003 RSX- Type S and they are considered drivers race with my car. I have owned all 3 SVT's I have raced, never met one that was even close, even from a roll. Don't get me wrong I love Contours I still help two of my friends with theirs all the time. But its a different league.... R Did the 3 SVTs know they were racing? Hate to say it but rsx t-s don't put down #s that will own any svts unless modified. Stock 1/4 times for your car are high 14s low 15s - just like the SVT, so what gives? 2k silver svt #1721 Ignorance breeds stupidity..

Re: 1998.5 svt vs 2002 celica gt-s #603636 04/23/03 01:28 PM
Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,128 Ft. Myers, FL, USA F FlechaAutoSports Hard-core CEG\'er
FlechaAutoSports Hard-core CEG\'er F Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,128 Ft. Myers, FL, USA	One SE-R I lost too was an SR20DET Running 9 LBS of boost.. and I only lost by the Lenght of the SER which is shorter than the SVT...yea the guy new how to drive to, he did NOT believe I wasn;t on NOS or FI he was so suprised. SER's are quick, but "owning" an SVT is just Obsured! Same with GTS and RSX S! eric

Re: 1998.5 svt vs 2002 celica gt-s #603637 04/23/03 02:51 PM
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 912 Maryland L LoudnQuik Veteran CEG\'er
LoudnQuik Veteran CEG\'er L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 912 Maryland	Go win one for the home team!!! Let us know what happens happy or sad! Jason 00 Audi S4, 2.7 Bi-turbo quattro 01 S10 Xtreme, 4.3l 98' Contour SE with some mods 96 Cavalier (beater)

Re: 1998.5 svt vs 2002 celica gt-s #603638 04/23/03 04:20 PM
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,191 Atlanta, GA A ATL-SVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
ATL-SVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er A Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,191 Atlanta, GA	Originally posted by SeR Guy1: Hate to say it but a Celica GT-S.. Stock Vs. Stock will win everytime drivers being equal. You better be a darn good driver to beat one. I own a 2003 RSX- Type S and they are considered drivers race with my car. I have owned all 3 SVT's I have raced, never met one that was even close, even from a roll. Don't get me wrong I love Contours I still help two of my friends with theirs all the time. But its a different league.... R Then explain where a car with 200 hp and 142 tq (LOL) at 2800 lbs gets a big enough edge on an SVT to be considered in a "different league"????

Re: 1998.5 svt vs 2002 celica gt-s #603639 04/23/03 04:30 PM
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 2,291 Surprise, AZ T The Davis Hard-core CEG'er
The Davis Hard-core CEG'er T Joined: May 2001 Posts: 2,291 Surprise, AZ	Just go to the "racing stories" on one of their boards and you'll understand - t3h [insert import here] c4n n3vAr l0s3!!!!!! (Disclaimer: My wife owns a Celica GT 5-spd. and I don't feel it's in the same league as my Zetec - I may have a slight advantage though ) How many Vs would a VTEC TEC if a VTEC could TEC Vs? The one, the only....FRNKNFORD http://www.westvalleycs.com

Re: 1998.5 svt vs 2002 celica gt-s #603640 04/23/03 08:05 PM
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 1,020 North Carolina F fst4dr_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er
fst4dr_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er F Joined: May 2000 Posts: 1,020 North Carolina	I still say it'll be celica all the way if the drivers are equal. Contour SVT..............Celica GTS 3040 lbs.................2500 lbs 200 hp...................180hp 15.2 lb/hp...............13.9 lb/hp 5-spd....................6-spd Granted the Celica driver would have to wring the hell out of the motor but he should have the edge no matter what the torque is. The SVT might get a jump off the line, but the Celica should be able to recoup that and more in the 1/4. Also you have a 98 so you are 5 hp less, meaning 15.6 lb/hp. As I said before I have seen a lightly modded Celica GTS run a 14.2 at close to 100 at Rockingham Dragway. Simon new- '04 Dodge Dakota 4x4. V8, 5spd FOR SALE Black 98 SVT EO (#2119 of 6535)- SOLD! New project-'88 Ranger 302 swap.

Re: 1998.5 svt vs 2002 celica gt-s #603641 04/24/03 08:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 69 S SeR Guy1 CEG\'er
SeR Guy1 CEG\'er S Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 69	Say what you want, you'll never meet someone who loves an SVT more than me (ok maybe you will) I was a Contour fanatic. But fact is stock for stock drivers equal I can promise you an RSX- Type S will beat an SVT. I've raced one heavily modded Contour and that was the closest, half a car length. I know you guys are trolling around here so you should speak up.. Mike... The RSX is breaking 14.9's out of the box and guys N/A with about 3000 grand in the high 13's now. The K20A responds like crazy to mods.. CAI 19 hp gain! Thats nuts, and that's mag's test too. Dyno the cars.. How often is a stock SVT putting down 172 -178 at the wheels? Im not a hater just a realist. Throw the torque numbers at me, fine, Launch at 3500 rpms and see who has more wheel hop? Yes an SVT can beat an RSX-TS, but I wouldn't call it a drivers race, and I am not bench racing, i've owned and driven both... Ryan 2004 WRX STI 91 Eclispe GSX (to many mods to list, Want to race?)

Re: 1998.5 svt vs 2002 celica gt-s #603642 04/25/03 12:37 AM
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 972 Orting, WA 9 95Mike_dup1 Veteran CEG\'er
95Mike_dup1 Veteran CEG\'er 9 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 972 Orting, WA	300 extra pounds take away a little more than a 25tq advantage will give us. I will too say that stock vs. stock and driver's being equal, a rsx t-s should edge out the contour by a little bit. Not enough to say that it isn't a driver's race though. That is why some people run 15s and 16s in their WRXs. Driver's skill can play a pretty big role. BTW, what is the rsx top speed without a limiter? 95 SE Modded - Gone 98 E0 Black SVT - Gone 98 se sport - Broken 00 T-Red SVT - Nice

Re: 1998.5 svt vs 2002 celica gt-s #603643 04/25/03 10:28 AM
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,191 Atlanta, GA A ATL-SVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
ATL-SVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er A Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,191 Atlanta, GA	Originally posted by SeR Guy1: The RSX is breaking 14.9's out of the box Ryan I got a buddy that hit 15.01 in his stock SVT. You still aren't making any argument dude. Your straight up hatin'. I like the RSX-S, in fact I spent a long time looking at them right before they hit the market. In the end, I couldn't bring myself to pay 24K (the way I wanted it) for that car. Just personal opinion, but you need facts to back up your statements, and saying you smoke every SVT you face just sounds like everybody else with an import talkin'.

Re: 1998.5 svt vs 2002 celica gt-s #603644 04/25/03 11:49 AM
Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,128 Ft. Myers, FL, USA F FlechaAutoSports Hard-core CEG\'er
FlechaAutoSports Hard-core CEG\'er F Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,128 Ft. Myers, FL, USA	SeR guy, if those are NA #'s what do you think an SER running 9lbs of boost could do to an SVT? I want hear your answer because I KNOW lol! eric

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