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I wonder if he was selling them preflashed with the bios? I know that is illegal for sure. Just blank chips are legal to own, last time i checked.


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from what I got reading numerous stories, the guy bought xbox chips from some company, put his name on them and resold them. by doing this he breaks copy right laws. It isn't about preflashed bio's modding your xbox, its about copywrite laws. I don't remember ever seeing microsoft as being the one who is taking him to court. I am sure they tipped the DOJ off to him. Anyone you try to twist the storie, the fact is he copied someone else stuff and sold it as his own. There is so many people posting anti-bush stuff, and stuff like if they buy something they can do anything with it. Well Yes, you can, Now here is where copywrite comes in. If you try to sell something, saying you made it, when it is already copywrited by someone else. that is where you are now breaking the law. If you turned around and solda Dell PC, painted yellow with the printer busted and spilled water in it. As long as you didn't slap your name tag on it you could still sell it. Without any hard ships at all. but you put your name on it and now you are breaking copy write laws. Some people need to read the whole aritical on that discussion board.


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Originally posted by auiotour:
from what I got reading numerous stories, the guy bought xbox chips from some company, put his name on them and resold them. by doing this he breaks copy right laws. It isn't about preflashed bio's modding your xbox, its about copywrite laws. I don't remember ever seeing microsoft as being the one who is taking him to court. I am sure they tipped the DOJ off to him. Anyone you try to twist the storie, the fact is he copied someone else stuff and sold it as his own. There is so many people posting anti-bush stuff, and stuff like if they buy something they can do anything with it. Well Yes, you can, Now here is where copywrite comes in. If you try to sell something, saying you made it, when it is already copywrited by someone else. that is where you are now breaking the law. If you turned around and solda Dell PC, painted yellow with the printer busted and spilled water in it. As long as you didn't slap your name tag on it you could still sell it. Without any hard ships at all. but you put your name on it and now you are breaking copy write laws. Some people need to read the whole aritical on that discussion board.




I read them to and they said nothing about him trying to relabel them as his. According to the stories they arrested him for selling the mod chips which let's you play pirated games. His site did not have any pirated games on it but the people in the forums talked about how to get and make pirated copies of games. In my opinion hed did nothing wrong in selling the chips since most people get them to play imported games that did not come out in the US even though you do have the people who use them for the wrong reasons. In regards to his forums and website he did not offer any tips or tricks on how to pirate the games nor did he offer any pirated games himself. The people on his site in his forums where the ones guilty of that. If that is the grounds for his arrest them why don't the government shut down and arrest every arms dealer? Sure not everyone that buys a gun is going to go out and murder paople but they sure are helping the ones that do buy the guns for that reason! Why do they allow the sale and use of computers? Yes not everyone is going to use it to hack and steal peoples identity to scam people with, but that still helps the ones who do chose to do so with it.


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Ok, now i'm confused. The article and posts on that thread make it sound like he got locked up just for selling the chips online. You're saying he sold the chips with his name on them and that's why he got in trouble? Last i heard you can only get busted for buying/selling chips with software already burned on it. That's why most chips are sold blank. There's a place here in NYC (chipzone.com) that sells and installs chips legally. I mean you can walk into their store and they'll do it right there. They haven't been shut down.


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It is illegal to sell modchips in any form, although it's not illegal to buy them. However, 99.999% of the time, no one cares to enforce the laws, so mod chips are freely sold and installed at thousands of places.

Very similar to "Head Shops". They sell what amounts to drug paraphenalia, but sell it as "novelties" so as to get around the rules. Cops are busting down on them nowadays though. Sex toys are treated in much the same fashion in Texas. They must be distributed as "novelties", but many stores have just come out selling them as what they are. Which is illegal. But no one really cares.

This guy was busted because the DoJ didn't like his website because it facilitated the trading of pirated software. Plain and simple. The first thing they did was illegally seize his domain. It was the thing first and foremost on what they wanted to do. His site, and a few others like his (none of which I shall list here) have played an integral role in bringing warez from a very small closeknit group of guys who just cracked software to prove they could and shared is amongst themselves, to the huge thing that it is today where virtually everyone has a number of pieces of pirated software.

It is back up and running on a new domain name with a new provider, and Ricci is appealing his case and filing a countersuit on the illegal seizure as the website was hosted overseas and is illegal for the DoJ to seize.

But you can't charge someone with facilitating the trade of pirated software, so they had to nab him for something. So, as soon as he started selling modchips, they had something to nail him for. And what better example than hitting the webmaster, and stealing his website, of one of the most prolific facilitators in the warez scene.

I operate one of the main dumps that warez groups use to distribute their items, so I've been following the case pretty closely, as what I do is far more damning than what he does. Personally, it doesn't really bother me one bit that he was caught. Websites like his aren't thought of very highly amongst warez groups.


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I read a little more in depth after I wrote that. From what I had understood at the time. That is what i thought he was getting in trouble for. I read more and see that Mod chips that are sold in the US are illegal.


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