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#599307 04/10/03 07:16 PM
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That ain't no joke BP.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030409/ts_nm/iraq_usa_warning_dc_1

We are allready telling them that the lack of total cooperation with American interest will cause them to have the same fate as Iraq.

I'll wait and see. Might have to store away some more food, water and ammo.


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[sigh]

Not again...

I swear I'm going to put out a line of pop-up books on the topic of what constitutes an enemy and a threat. Maybe Dr. Seuss could lend a hand with the text. I could release it alongside a pop-up book for the voting population of Palm Beach, Florida...

Ok. Here we go again.

Originally posted by BP:
5-10 yrs? Come on man. Canada could be our enemy in 5-10 for all we know.




Yeah. Right. Want to put a 5-figure sum of money on that?

Originally posted by BP:
The way Bush and Rumsfeld put it Iraq was an immediate threat and they must be disarmed NOW!




You mean the Iraqis under Hussein didn't invade Iran, nor Kuwait, nor during the period of time after the Gulf War they never shot at Coalition aircraft, nor have they been hiding WMD? They never used chemical weapons in the first place against Halabja? They haven't been playing "hide and go seek" with UN weapons inspectors for 12 years (not to mention kicking them out when it was apparently appropriate)?

There are still tons of nerve agent that is unaccounted for. I'm assuming that YOU know the status of it, given your tone and accusations. If so, please call (703) 482-0623 and ask to speak to George Tenet, the Director of the CIA. I'm sure he'd be delerious with excitement over your disclosure.

As an aside, when do you think it would be time to go in and dig around Iraq for all of this crap? Hopefully before they can use it or sell it, or after they've used it or sold it and we've got a nice patch of New York City or Washington that's coated with VX? I can tell you the choice a duma$$ would make, though I hope it would be profoundly transparent by now...

Originally posted by BP:
But then they changed it to operation Iraqi Freedom. LOL what a farse. Looks like all the gas masks and anti chem/bio agents were put to good use. Dogding those WMDs were pretty tricky for our boys while they were risking their lives securing those oil fields prior to looking for any terrible wmds.




What would you have rather had it called? Operation Turbanator, complete with John Williams' Imperial March theme from Star Wars playing in the background and a BBQ wagon following each APC or tank rolling into Baghdad? That would go over well long-term, wouldn't it...

They've called it Operation Iraqi Freedom for pretty much the same reason Welfare isn't called "Freebies for Fvckups" or Affirmative Action isn't called "Screw Whitey". Check out books on marketing, PR, tact, reconstruction, and finally, "How to Win Friends and Influence People". It might do some good.

Originally posted by BP:
Now that we've spent at least $75 billion! liberating Iraq you best believe not only the US gov is going to get back there money plus some in those secured Iraqi oil fields, but so will all the private contractors the US is going to use to help rebuild Iraq. The same thing that's going to happen in Afghanistan.




I'm sure no other country will benefit from this either. I mean, Iraq is definitely going to head farther back into the Stone Age due to the reconstruction that will take place...

Nor will a free Iraq be able to sell oil to who it wants. Nah, couldn't happen. I'm sure we are going to totally RESTRICT the petroleum output to ONLY the US.


Any moron can tell you that the people best-outfitted to go into Iraq and rebuild their infrastructre are PRIVATE COMPANIES. The US government isn't in the construction business, nor are they in the pipeline business, nor do they specialize in oilwell fires, nor do they update hospitals. Private industry can do all of this for a fraction of the price that our government could. You'd have to be a complete and utter wanker to try and allocate the complete reconstruction to a government agency...

Would you rather have us pick up, leave and do NOTHING to help? I mean, we should MUCH rather have a famine crisis and leave Iraq in ruins instead of positioning help and reconstruction, shouldn't we...

Profit is a part of a free-market economy whether you like it or not. Actually, it's a part of most economies. Why would Russia, France and Germany be begging and pissing over the US potentially locking them out of the reconstruction otherwise? Is it inheirently evil that US companies profit from this turn of events, though not for others?

Originally posted by BP:
Oh yeah and they're in love with us right now...NOT. And of course they love the interim gov we put in place for them, they're just playing around with the assasination attempts on their appointed President...they really like him.




I wouldn't say they love us, but many do like us for what we've done. The final judgement will come when we up and leave Iraq to it's own devices after they are able to politically stand on their own two feet. Same goes for Afghanistan. Most there haven't had it better in the last 25 years, as the Russians did a lot of damage during their incursion in the '80s.

Originally posted by BP:
And yeah, of course oil was only a small reason for going to war in the middle east we were just securing those oil fields first to make sure the Iraqi people can profit from their own wealth. Reallly though, if you think the the value of the Iraqi oil to the US gov/corporations were not a MAJOR objective to the war on terrorism...I mean operation iraqi freedom despite the other objectives you're in denial.




I've said it once and I'll say it again. There are hundreds of reasons we went into Iraq; some greater than others. OIL wasn't a MAIN objective of this attack though we an many others will undoubtedly benefit from a free Iraq.

I guess we went into Afghanistan to corner the ornate rug market then, right?

Originally posted by BP:
You could have followed that in any unbiased reporting.




You must be referring to the National Inquirer or Al-Jazeera as those unbiased mediums of media...

Originally posted by BP:
*pre-emptively starts swinging blindly in the direction of anyone who might not completely agree*

And all the propagandist displays of the shiites (who hate the sunnis) marching in streets celebrating their new found liberation is a nice touch.

I'm taking wagers on whose next. Iran or Syria. $5 bucks says Syran.




My money is on Syria, though not in the fashion of an invasion like you've seen in Iraq. Iran is posing some intersesting problems as well with their nuclear program in full swing and denying watchdog access to their facilities....



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Originally posted by Ausgedient the Ninja:
Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
YOU realize that we have discovered at least 3 terrorist training camps...the Northern Iraq Al Queada camp (with the ricin), the camp with the airliner fuselage for highjacker training, and today south of Bahgdad, a PLO camp....



I have not heard about this.





When you do will that change your mind?

Doubtful.



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Originally posted by BP:
5-10 yrs? Come on man. Canada could be our enemy in 5-10 for all we know.


If that were the case, don't you mean to day "Come on man. Canada could be part of the United States in 5-10 for all we know."

Originally posted by JaTo:
They've called it Operation Iraqi Freedom for pretty much the same reason Welfare isn't called "Freebies for Fvckups" or Affirmative Action isn't called "Screw Whitey".


ROFLMAO


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Originally posted by JaTo:

Originally posted by BP:
You could have followed that in any unbiased reporting.




You must be referring to the National Inquirer or Al-Jazeera as those unbiased mediums of media...





From my personal experience, and carefull consideration of peoples claims, I have come to the conclusion that;
Un-biased News Media Does NOT Exist.

That reminds me, I need to order some more salt.


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Btw, it appears as if the 'Fall of Baghdad' doesn't refer ONLY to the removal of Saddam's regime:

City descends into chaos


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You'll have to forgive BP, he's been spending too much time at the liberal "think tank" called ClubSi.

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Originally posted by klavender:
And to think, alot of skeptics around the world said the Iraqis would hate us! SUCK IT FRANCE!!!!!!




I was watching CNN or fox news or something late last night and the news reporter showed something that Jock Chiraq said last night.

Basically, who wouldn't be glad saddam is gone?

I was like what the crap?


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Originally posted by PackRat:
You'll have to forgive BP, he's been spending too much time at the liberal "think tank" called ClubSi.




i didnt think a cest pool of half-wit drunken keyboard cowboys could be referred to in any sense as a 'think tank'



nice paralell with welfare and affirmative action btw that was classic!


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I spend enough time over there to realize what a pleasant place this is, I tell ya what.

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