Amen to the Stryke AV's. If using the same power against a 12" Brahma, i think these would have an advantage. It has a little more dispacement, and a higher sensitivity. Though the brahma may have about 500wrms more power handling, you'll be using the same amp anyways. SQ wise.. these AV's are very tough to beat. Heehee.. i should know.. I'm not only a client... i'm a user of these AVs. 15's though.