Originally posted by CRZYDRVR:

Plus, for all the people that say DOHC is the future in drag racing, why is it that top fuel and funny cars are making gross amounts of power by using those "old" pushrods?
I dont see them using VETEC anytime soon.



They already do...case in point Toyo Tires Sport Compact Nationals ( feat. in SCC) Winnerof Modified Class was Papadakis in his FWD 4 cyl Civic...@ 8.44; Hod Rod class..another Civic 8.87..all motor, a neon that ran 11.0..
Originally posted by infuryum:
half the displacement.

An Integra Type R with intake, header and exhaust will run around a 14.1 in the hands of a good driver. I've watched them run 14.5's all day long with only a CAI.



...there is your example of FWD w/ mods...and just think only out of 4 cylinders and 1.8 liters...and runs w/ a 5.7 L Camaro?? P.S. Stock Type R's come w/ 195 rubbers...

Originally posted by cfcsvt:
I just wanted to post that the S2000 mentioned is a 13.8 stock car (magazine)


..Yep
Originally posted by VaTech_95SE:

I didn't start this thread to fight over foreign vs. american cars.



already started

Originally posted by ghodge:
Preach on Brother! My '91 LX 5 spd was turning mid 14s with just a drop in K&N filter and some Dynomax Super Turbo mufflers and removed silencer.



so figure a 30 HP gain? so stock would be high 14's - Low 15's...

Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
now i can attest to those 1/4 mile times my current 93 lx ran a 14.2 STOCK(with factory 3.73 gears,removed air silencer,k@n drop in)



One, w/ a k and n and air lilencer removed, that is not stock. Two, my buddy had a 93 LX w/ 3.73 posi, header, H pipe, no mufflers, smog delete, K $ N, short shifter, and only ran 14.2 w/ a 5 speed..and he can drive..

Originally posted by Frank Grimes:
Horsepower per liter: Most over-rated street engine stat ever



How else would you rate a motor?? WOW 500 Hp in a 8.2 liter 10 cyliner (viper, maybe be 8.3, dont remember). Such high technology when it is the same spefic output of the zetec motor in our contours!

...Point of clarification...this was all to my response to the first pic...my disgust w/ all the F body fans trashing imports, where it is not due. My response pic was only to point out that F bodies arn't God's answer to the automobile...untill people tried to continue to trash..thats where i step in. I have this agrument everyday..ive argued with the dean of my college (ex auto guy) and convinced him of the benifits of Small dis. over large. Anyone can make a car fast by putting in the biggest V8 they can find, ill make a fast car half the cylinders and 1/4 engine size...ill even throw in BIG SPOILERS and tv's just to make the race a little more fair for the big Iron blocks.

Tim Ex - ContourPower 2001 Saab 9-3 Viggen