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Don't forget for you F body dudes...the fastest TA wasn't a V8, but was the turbo 6 in the late 80's
-Tim
Not as fast as the WS6 is in either 0-60, top speed, or 1/4 mile. But it was quick.
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i like small cars. everything is easier on a small car, its easier to have good acceleration, braking, handling, everything. and its easier to have a turbocharged 4 in a small car than it is a big block v8 that puts out similar power. more room in the engine bay too, so more room to work. sign me up for small cars with f/i engines.
now officially a troll, i guess. used to have a black 96 SE, until it broke down one too many times.
now I'm hunting for a motorycle.
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Originally posted by ETayrien:
and its easier to have a turbocharged 4 in a small car than it is a big block v8 that puts out similar power. more room in the engine bay too, so more room to work.
Define Big Block. Its not like most people come across big-blocks all the time, much less in small cars.
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I don't agree with the everything is easier on small cars theory at all. Ever looked under the hood of small cars? There is no room! Even under the contour hood there is no room. With Camaros and Mustangs, though, there is a ton of room to work. Plus, they are not tranversly mounted, so that makes it easier.
Not to mention the costs involved!! It is MUCH cheaper to make a Mustang faster than say a Civic!!
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oh. well, for me a muscle car is a mustang, and they have big engines. so a big block is a 5L.
now officially a troll, i guess. used to have a black 96 SE, until it broke down one too many times.
now I'm hunting for a motorycle.
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Originally posted by ejstefl:
I don't agree with the everything is easier on small cars theory at all. Ever looked under the hood of small cars?
the engine bay of the 4 bangers i've seen, jettas, civics, etc, (admittedly, not many) has got a lot more room than the contour bay. not sure how much room a turbo takes up.
Originally posted by ejstefl:
With Camaros and Mustangs, though, there is a ton of room to work.
true, but like i said, i like small cars. if a 4 banger is cramped in a small car, a v8 would be stuffed.
i was debating small engine vs. big engine in a small car, i guess everyone else is debating small engine small car vs. big engine big car, probably threw some people off. ill shut up now.
now officially a troll, i guess. used to have a black 96 SE, until it broke down one too many times.
now I'm hunting for a motorycle.
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Originally posted by ETayrien:
i like small cars. everything is easier on a small car, its easier to have good acceleration, braking, handling, everything. and its easier to have a turbocharged 4 in a small car than it is a big block v8 that puts out similar power. more room in the engine bay too, so more room to work. sign me up for small cars with f/i engines.
I do agree that there are open engine bays in some smaller cars and that a F/I small displacement motor is and can be very good, but, the topic mostly had a lot to do w/ N/A not F/I.
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Originally posted by ETayrien:
Originally posted by ejstefl:
I don't agree with the everything is easier on small cars theory at all. Ever looked under the hood of small cars?
the engine bay of the 4 bangers i've seen, jettas, civics, etc, (admittedly, not many) has got a lot more room than the contour bay. not sure how much room a turbo takes up.
Originally posted by ejstefl:
With Camaros and Mustangs, though, there is a ton of room to work.
true, but like i said, i like small cars. if a 4 banger is cramped in a small car, a v8 would be stuffed.
i was debating small engine vs. big engine in a small car, i guess everyone else is debating small engine small car vs. big engine big car, probably threw some people off. ill shut up now.
As a comparison our 850 turbo is a 2.3L I-5. To get the kind of power it puts down a larger and heavier engine would have to be under the hood. With only the I-5 under there in a car larger than the tour there is plenty of room, even with the engine mounted transveresly (sp).
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Originally posted by CRZYDRVR:
Plus, for all the people that say DOHC is the future in drag racing, why is it that top fuel and funny cars are making gross amounts of power by using those "old" pushrods?
I dont see them using VETEC anytime soon.
They already do...case in point Toyo Tires Sport Compact Nationals ( feat. in SCC) Winnerof Modified Class was Papadakis in his FWD 4 cyl Civic...@ 8.44; Hod Rod class..another Civic 8.87..all motor, a neon that ran 11.0..
Originally posted by infuryum:
half the displacement.
An Integra Type R with intake, header and exhaust will run around a 14.1 in the hands of a good driver. I've watched them run 14.5's all day long with only a CAI.
...there is your example of FWD w/ mods...and just think only out of 4 cylinders and 1.8 liters...and runs w/ a 5.7 L Camaro?? P.S. Stock Type R's come w/ 195 rubbers...
Originally posted by cfcsvt:
I just wanted to post that the S2000 mentioned is a 13.8 stock car (magazine)
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Originally posted by VaTech_95SE:
I didn't start this thread to fight over foreign vs. american cars.
already started
Originally posted by ghodge:
Preach on Brother! My '91 LX 5 spd was turning mid 14s with just a drop in K&N filter and some Dynomax Super Turbo mufflers and removed silencer.
so figure a 30 HP gain? so stock would be high 14's - Low 15's...
Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
now i can attest to those 1/4 mile times my current 93 lx ran a 14.2 STOCK(with factory 3.73 gears,removed air silencer,k@n drop in)
One, w/ a k and n and air lilencer removed, that is not stock. Two, my buddy had a 93 LX w/ 3.73 posi, header, H pipe, no mufflers, smog delete, K $ N, short shifter, and only ran 14.2 w/ a 5 speed..and he can drive..
Originally posted by Frank Grimes:
Horsepower per liter: Most over-rated street engine stat ever
How else would you rate a motor?? WOW 500 Hp in a 8.2 liter 10 cyliner (viper, maybe be 8.3, dont remember). Such high technology when it is the same spefic output of the zetec motor in our contours!
...Point of clarification...this was all to my response to the first pic...my disgust w/ all the F body fans trashing imports, where it is not due. My response pic was only to point out that F bodies arn't God's answer to the automobile...untill people tried to continue to trash..thats where i step in. I have this agrument everyday..ive argued with the dean of my college (ex auto guy) and convinced him of the benifits of Small dis. over large. Anyone can make a car fast by putting in the biggest V8 they can find, ill make a fast car half the cylinders and 1/4 engine size...ill even throw in BIG SPOILERS and tv's just to make the race a little more fair for the big Iron blocks.
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