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Originally posted by Roz 1999 SVT-C:
Originally posted by Speed Demon:
[censored] canada. 
Glad to see hate is alive and well (sarcasim intented).
N-e-ways...I for one don't hold what the selct few did, against Canada.
I just hope, ignorance and hate can be overcome
Amen to that, Roz.
Unfortunately, our president and his handlers thrive on ignorance, guile and gullibility.
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I think people have too much pride. The flag of a country or the national anthem are symbols. The people are what matters. A lot of mothers and fathers are going to loose their sons and daughters in the war. That is the price we pay for freedom.
I was having a conversation with some people today about some power supplies that used vacuum tubes. They commented that they were old power supplies because they used vacuum tubes. I mentioned that I heard that the Russians still used vacuum tubes because they were more dependable. What I really meant was that vacuum tubes would be more dependable in the event of a nuclear war because they would handle the spike voltage better. I had read that in a magazine and I don't know for sure if it is true. The people I was talking too left right away. They said Russians use vacuum tubes because that is all they can afford. I think people are too touchy about nationalities. People are people no matter where you live.
The U.S. needs all the help we can get in the war against terrorism. We need to stay friends with the other countries even though we do not agree on everything.
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Originally posted by 7999:
A lot of mothers and fathers are going to loose their sons and daughters in the war. That is the price we pay for freedom.
LOL. I hate to break it to you, but unless you live in Iraq, you are not going to wind up with any more "freedom" from this war. Nor would we lose any if it never happened.
Originally posted by Drumbo:
insidiously portrays those in favor of actions and agendas that place our soldiers in harm's way as SUPPORTIVE of our armed forces ... But those who oppose placing our soldiers in harm's way are somehow UNSUPPORTIVE of them ... ?
Excellent point. However, would you agree that most of the troops support the war?
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Originally posted by 7999:
I think people have too much pride. The flag of a country or the national anthem are symbols. The people are what matters. A lot of mothers and fathers are going to loose their sons and daughters in the war. That is the price we pay for freedom.
I was having a conversation with some people today about some power supplies that used vacuum tubes. They commented that they were old power supplies because they used vacuum tubes. I mentioned that I heard that the Russians still used vacuum tubes because they were more dependable. What I really meant was that vacuum tubes would be more dependable in the event of a nuclear war because they would handle the spike voltage better. I had read that in a magazine and I don't know for sure if it is true. The people I was talking too left right away. They said Russians use vacuum tubes because that is all they can afford. I think people are too touchy about nationalities. People are people no matter where you live.
The U.S. needs all the help we can get in the war against terrorism. We need to stay friends with the other countries even though we do not agree on everything.
Very well said. In global economics/politics, the devil is -- and ever shall be -- in the details.
Too bad so many Americans have a cultural Attention Deficit Disorder that prevents them from paying close attention to the details and really understanding the long-term impact this is going to have.
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The U.S. Goverment is pretty smart about making decisions. I would like to know what facts they used to make the decision to remove Sadam. I think most people would agree that Sadam did not keep his word and the U.S. Goverment did not like that. He agreed to get rid of weapons of mass destruction but instead he did everything in his power to get around destroying his weapons of mass destruction.
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Originally posted by Ausgedient the Ninja:
Originally posted by 7999:
A lot of mothers and fathers are going to loose their sons and daughters in the war. That is the price we pay for freedom.
LOL. I hate to break it to you, but unless you live in Iraq, you are not going to wind up with any more "freedom" from this war. Nor would we lose any if it never happened.
Originally posted by Drumbo:
insidiously portrays those in favor of actions and agendas that place our soldiers in harm's way as SUPPORTIVE of our armed forces ... But those who oppose placing our soldiers in harm's way are somehow UNSUPPORTIVE of them ... ?
Excellent point. However, would you agree that most of the troops support the war?
No, I wouldn't -- at least, not the real soldiers who have been down this road before.
The only soldiers who are gung-ho about war are the green, unbloodied rookies who haven't seen one of their comrade's helmet become a receptacle for what's left of their brain after a high-velocity round has blasted through their skull, or seen someone turned into vapor (or worse, only partially vaporized, leaving them with just a few, terrified seconds in this life to absorb what just happened to them before being slam-dunked into the hereafter) by any one of a number of devices we clever humans have devised to annihilate each other.
Ask any combat veteran how many times they were literally horrified by what they saw. Ask them to explain to you -- in the most graphic way -- why "War Is Hell" is the most accurate description of it. Ask any combat veteran who's been "in the [censored]" how much they'd like to re-live the experience.
But, let's get back to this topic after "US-Lead coalition" forces enter Baghdad. From all indications, Baghdad will make clear to all why we should have listened to -- not dissed -- France and every other country and voice who urged the USA to back-off and allow more time to play the diplomatic hand.
For both sides, Baghdad has the potential to be another killing field.
We'll know very soon.
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Originally posted by Honkeytonk Monkey:
All those people booing your anthem are blind. They cannot see that we depend entirely on the US. Our financial situation mirrors the US, our exports need the US, our country simply needs the US. They are also blind to the fact that even if this war actually was about oil, the end result will be the downfall of a madman who kills innocent people just because he can.
I find it funny that because a bunch of idiots from Canada boo the American anthem, some of you are angry at all Canadians and trash us. I'm canadian, I didn't boo your anthem. I think our prime minister is a jellyfish that won't do anything that doesn't benefit himself in some way. I think we should be behind the war in full helping the british and american forces like in the past. But what does it matter, I'm Canadian... that's really lame guys. 
We could send all our troops. They likely would be a cleanup crew more than anything, rescuing survivors, finishing off after the main assault. At least they would be there and have a purpose. Unfortunately, the cost of having a military would cut into politician's salaries, and into the budgets, so it is generally being phased out. Eventually we'll have a canoe and a stick for our main military armament.
That said, there are some people from the United States that dislike all Canadians now because some of us don't support the war. Get your head out of your ass. There are a good number of Americans that oppose the war too. Instead of being angry a group of people for the opinions of some. Go yell at your neighbor for letting his dog poop on your lawn, at least that will be productive.
Why can't we all aim this hostility at the people who deserve it? Namely terrorists and insane dictators 
Incidentally I think calling french cut potatoes "freedom fries" instead of french fries is one of the most retarded ideas on earth, almost surpassing Metallica suing any company that uses the word Metal in thier name.
Very Well Said! Any citizen booing or otherwise degrading its own national anthem better think about where he/she lives, but in a democracy he/she has the right. Canadiens booing the American national anthem is just that...a citizen of another country expressing his right to freedom of speech. I serve so my family and others have the right to do that...I serve so I have the f'in right do that when/if the time comes! However, I will not go against my commander in chief as long as I have sworn the oath...not to mention that I agree morally with the war.
Some people must believe in Honor and Duty and carry its standard in this world. Look at Hollywood, they ACT the parts of people that have honor, even though in real life they seem to have none. All the money and none of the sacrifices.
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Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by Honkeytonk Monkey:
All those people booing your anthem are blind. They cannot see that we depend entirely on the US. Our financial situation mirrors the US, our exports need the US, our country simply needs the US. They are also blind to the fact that even if this war actually was about oil, the end result will be the downfall of a madman who kills innocent people just because he can.
I find it funny that because a bunch of idiots from Canada boo the American anthem, some of you are angry at all Canadians and trash us. I'm canadian, I didn't boo your anthem. I think our prime minister is a jellyfish that won't do anything that doesn't benefit himself in some way. I think we should be behind the war in full helping the british and american forces like in the past. But what does it matter, I'm Canadian... that's really lame guys.
We could send all our troops. They likely would be a cleanup crew more than anything, rescuing survivors, finishing off after the main assault. At least they would be there and have a purpose. Unfortunately, the cost of having a military would cut into politician's salaries, and into the budgets, so it is generally being phased out. Eventually we'll have a canoe and a stick for our main military armament.
That said, there are some people from the United States that dislike all Canadians now because some of us don't support the war. Get your head out of your ass. There are a good number of Americans that oppose the war too. Instead of being angry a group of people for the opinions of some. Go yell at your neighbor for letting his dog poop on your lawn, at least that will be productive.
Why can't we all aim this hostility at the people who deserve it? Namely terrorists and insane dictators
Incidentally I think calling french cut potatoes "freedom fries" instead of french fries is one of the most retarded ideas on earth, almost surpassing Metallica suing any company that uses the word Metal in thier name.
Very Well Said! Any citizen booing or otherwise degrading its own national anthem better think about where he/she lives, but in a democracy he/she has the right. Canadiens booing the American national anthem is just that...a citizen of another country expressing his right to freedom of speech. I serve so my family and others have the right to do that...I serve so I have the f'in right do that when/if the time comes! However, I will not go against my commander in chief as long as I have sworn the oath...not to mention that I agree morally with the war.
Some people must believe in Honor and Duty and carry its standard in this world. Look at Hollywood, they ACT the parts of people that have honor, even though in real life they seem to have none. All the money and none of the sacrifices.
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Quebec has its fair share of retards, just like everywhere else. Very stupid and sheeplike behavior. I think in general Canadians are above this kind of behavior. A sorry display in this case.
What I don't want to hear is holier than though comments from any American...You think 200 people booing your anthem is bad...what about discussing if the Canadian Anthem should even be played at a main sporting event on American soil...Biggest disrespect you can have for something is not aknowledge its existence or pertinence...
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Originally posted by mangler:
what about discussing if the Canadian Anthem should even be played at a main sporting event on American soil...
But where would you stop? Mexico? Bhutan? I think the sport of hockey, so intertwined around both countries, obviously should play both anywhere, anytime. But I do not see why it would be required, at say the Superbowl. Or Yankee Stadium.
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