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Originally posted by 95Mike:
After Clinton announced that he was bangin' Monica and lied under oath, Al Gore put his arm around Clinton's shoulder and said "the best president we've ever had." Is this guy joking? Thanks to him all of the elementary school kids know what oral sex is.
And thanks to Hilary, the kids don't think of oral sex as a sexual act. 
She's a bigger threat to America than any other Democrat. I swear, if she, or a select few others, gain the White House, I may be shopping for a home in Canada. Then again, maybe I'll grab three friends, a case of beer, and a blow-dart gun and take over France.
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Originally posted by MarkO:
Originally posted by BOFH:
I think part of the reason healthcare prices have gone up is because most people don't actually pay for their healthcare. Either they purchase insurance, or the government pays for their healthcare.
Very few people actually pay the bill themselves, so the prices are inflated.
Not to mention cost shifting in healthcare, the costs to pay for those who don't have insurance are shifted to those who do.
That also drives up costs
Hmmm. It would be interesting to see some numbers on the numbers of those with private/govt/no insurance.
Here you go: Straight from my office:
Home Oxygen Therapy:
List Price: $425.00/month
Medicare Allowable for Kansas Residents: $222.69 (Of which Medicare pays 80%, the customer, or their supplemental insurance is responsible for the remaining 20%)
Kansas Medicaid Allowable: $220.69-taken as 100% payment, unless the customer is on a spenddown program
Private insurance allowables are all different, due to contracted amounts. Out of network will pay the full List Price.
Direct Billed Patients: Dependant on income, anywhere from $425-0. Demonstrated financial need dictates the price they pay, although if they are qualified for zero, we will refer them to their local SRS office for Medicaid eligibility.
I hope that clears some things up.
BTW, My private insurance costs me $200/month thorough my employer, but I can have 75 kids and it will never go up. I'm more than happy to pay it (Except for every other Friday  ). I understand that some can't do that, but there are alternatives, such as state aid programs and free/cheap health clinics.
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Originally posted by MarkO:
Originally posted by 95Mike:
.....Thanks to him all of the elementary school kids know what oral sex is.......
Thanks to President Bush, elementary kids now know that the candidate with the most votes doesn't necessarily get to be President.
Actually, you might want to thank the founders of the Electoral College for that one, NOT Bush. It's been in place for YEARS, and no one really whined about it before...
Originally posted by BP:
Originally posted by 95Mike:
.....I also don't like how people credit Clinton and Bush for the changes in the economy. The internet and technology helped our economy blossom, and 9/11 helped the economy crash.......
Agreed. The handling of that poor economy though leaves something to be desired. Handing back big chunks of cash in the form of tax cuts when we are running huge deficits is poor judgement.
Is someone forgetting that cuts in taxes free up money for investment and expenditures? Don't forget that the State and Local government deficits are more a product of years of mismanagement and overspending by your locally-elected officials, not what the Federal government has done, though there are some rather extreme exceptions to that...
Originally posted by BP:
Originally posted by 95Mike:
.........Is Bush the best president we could hope for? Not really. I for one am not going to show the rest of the world that our States are not united though. Especially at a time like this.......
I wholeheartedly agree. He is still our President.
I agree as well.
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Originally posted by JaTo:
Is someone forgetting that cuts in taxes free up money for investment and expenditures? Don't forget that the State and Local government deficits are more a product of years of mismanagement and overspending by your locally-elected officials, not what the Federal government has done, though there are some rather extreme exceptions to that...
No. I'm not forgetting that the returned monies may be spent or invested. In the current climate though, maybe folks are putting it in the bank in case they lose their job. When that happens, the money isn't stimulating the economy and it isn't being put to use by the Govt.
Regarding the deficits, I was referring to the Federal deficit.
Bless our servicemen & women overseas.
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Originally posted by BP:
1)You obviously didn't pay attention to what the rest of the world was saying during the election. They were praying Bush would lose. And Gore had way more credibility (in my book and majority of voters) and experience than Bush.
2) Who's to say that the renewed and increased pressure on Saddam wouldn't have worked. You?
3)So f*cking what he has gas. Everyone does. And he knows just like everyone else that we'd destroy him in the blink of an eye if he tried to use it on us. Honestly I don't give a sh!t if he used it on his own people it's not like it's happening now or even recently. We got people over here starving, getting sub par education, bad health care, and worrying about a SS check when we get old even though we're paying for it. Our economy is f*cked and the job market is f*cked. And I'm supposed to give a sh!t about Iraq. When he was gassing the kurds back then we didn't do sh!t, we didn't give a sh!t back then but now all of sudden we have to liberate the Iraqi people. And now some umpteen years later you people are acting like he just did it yesterday. Get the f*ck outta here with that bullsh!t. This war is as much about him gassing his own folks or even having wmds as much as it's about me having gas.
*farts*
4)Even when and if they do find banned wmds so what. That still won't justify that war was necessary or that the US was in any emminent danger and we had to pre-emptively attack a nation that was already in the sh!tter anyway. If anything it just proves to everyone else that we can kick your a$$ if we want.
And all this bs talk about supporting our President. Good for you. I'll support the troops over there (god bless), but I don't support Bush's decision to go to war for bs reasons he's giving us.
1) Praying he lost.....only the Dems dude, only the Dems. But I bet China (who had such sucess lobbying & spying on the US under Clinton, and well, Sadam would have been happier with Gore..)
2) This comment..well just stands on its own. Did you mean that or typo?? (And I'M the sheep..) How would you increase the pressure..whats your plan. Have France shut off the oil for guns program?? Would 12 aircraft carriers off the coast saying comply or die (instead of just 5)??...Ohh..that was too mean, should we go the kinder, gentler route?? Clinton tried the single cruise missle route...no luck. What is your SPECIFIC plan? Always vague terms, ideas from liberals..no substance, just critisism.
3) VX gas is similar to your farts...is this your point?
4) So what if he finds WMD, so what if the Iraqis really ENJOY being liberated, if we can end sanctions and allow rebuilding with the power of Iraq's own oil wealth, so what if terrorists have one less place to hide, that the economy & stock market stabilize after the warjitters pass. So what. I DO know that many liberals that will be so blind with anger that they will not even enjoy a complete victory with all the above. That THEIR priorities of a more socialist government with free heathcare, food, shelter, retirement, and a Honda in every garage (all paid for by the mythical "rich" republicans) are put "on hold".
This is high risk & may go bad, but you know what..I do not think so. I think Bush knows what he is doing...I think he is sincere and not just looking at re-election (which was in the bag before he said word 1 about Iraq). You call me a sheep for this...I have concerns but I have looked at his character and I have faith. AS I said, lets just see how it plays out. We WILL see how it plays out because frankly..the Dems are out/fired/not "rehired"..out of control of the house, the senate, and the west wing. Oh, yes..cheated every step of the way..but they are OUT. Your Dem leaders have not stood firm against the president if they disagreed except for pot shots..name calling, retoric, no substance. If it really is against there convictions then they are cowards for not acting.
Rant over...we will just see.
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Originally posted by BP:
^ Tell that to Bush.
Aren't we looking for Osama, fighting in Afghanistan, and starting a war with Iraq all at the same time. N.Korea is probably next.
...and you say one problem at a time.
Yeah no kidding...two problems at a time...or I should say multitasking at a time...Thousands of soldiers in the Afgan. territories are beginning a rather large "attack" against Taliban forces. And to add, extra steps taken around this great nation to ensure less of a chance against attacks...
The thing from which the work suffers more than from any other evil is not the assertion of falsehood, but the endless and irrepressible repetition of half-truths. ? G.K. Chesterton
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Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
I think Bush knows what he is doing...
  
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Originally posted by BP:
Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
I think Bush knows what he is doing...
Bush doesn't know what he's doing...but he's surrounded himself with great and smart people. They know what they're doing.
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Originally posted by t-red2000se:
Then again, maybe I'll grab three friends, a case of beer, and a blow-dart gun and take over France.
ROFLMAO!
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Originally posted by TheGreatOne:
They know what they're doing.
But who they are doing it for is another matter.
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