Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums General Common Interests Having second thoughts on the war.....

Originally posted by Pigeon:

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Don't you think an aggressive campaign in Iraq won't send a message to N. Korea that the US is more than capable of taking care of business. Scott

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Originally posted by Shaggy:

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How about this, move out and move out NOW! Instead of b1t(hing, moaning and HIDING OUT in this great country, move out. See how it is in other countries. Take your bellyaching elsewhere.

I for one am happy we are taking care of this now, and not later after more innocent AMERICANS and IRAQIS die at the hand of a madman. Do YOU know how many of his OWN people he killed, to test his bio/chem weapons? One person is too much, IMHO! If he kills his own people for fun, why would people believe he won't kill us?

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You guys are funny. I guess you equate Anti-war to Anti-American.

How many Americans have died because of Saddam outside of the gulf wars? Zero. We can go to any corner of the earth and find tyrants or govs oppressing and/or killing their own people. Now all of sudden Iraq is where it's happening the worst!? Wrong.

Saddam wouldn't dare f*ck with us. Cause he knows just as the rest of the world knows that if you f*ck with the US you die. Our own CIA just last year said that Iraq was no threat to the US as long as we don't provoke anything. So of course we have to go stir up the bee-hive.

Originally posted by Shaggy:

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I for one am happy we are taking care of this now, and not later after more innocent AMERICANS and IRAQIS die at the hand of a madman.

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Originally posted by BP:

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Originally posted by TheGreatOne:

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1) If Gore were in office we'd probably have the world opinion and the UN behind us and we probably wouldn't need to go to war to solve the problem. I think the rest of the world doesn't like/respect Bush. They see the shady ways he won the election and don't respect him as a capable leader.

2)Saddam could've been isolated and controlled by the rest of the world without a war. Even possibly removed.

3) I haven't heard or seen one shred of evidence, fake, made up, fabricated or whatever you want to call it showing that Iraq is of a remote threat to the US.

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1) If spineless Gore was president, France would have probably attacked us! But only you Dems give a damn about how the election went down....rest of the world probably never knew or cared about the whining that went on. I cannot see how after being Clintons lacky (he who nailed his intern under the oval office desk then lied bold face about it..creating one of the biggest blackmail opportunies since, well Nixon) Gore would have any credibility.

2) Now this is silly. Removed??? What progress in removing Sadam had been made in the past 12 years??? Isolated?? Let me ask you..who was being hurt by sanctions/isolation...Sadam??? In his 12+ palaces (even the BUNKERS have pools), his mistress (rape victim) of the night, murderer of any disenting voice. No, wrong, fat chance. He was still able to cut enough deals with the French, etc to keep himself fat and happy. Now his people...the sanctions were hurting them plenty...for 12 years. This was the WINNING policy to date.

3) Well, he HAS VX gas and anthrax. No question. He is not allowed to (unlike several other countries) because the UN says so (though all they do is talk). He took big personal risk to keep it for some reason. He does hate us. He has used it before on civilians. Would he use it on us??? Do you feel lucky?? "I wount burn the oil wells"...several are NOW burning. "I do not have chemical weapons"....yesterday said he would use them if we invade. "I do not have Scuds"....well, except for the ones he JUST lobed into kuwait. "I'm not a murderer (since I gassed my people anyway)"....well OK they just DID find RECENT film footage of what was going on to CHILDREN in Kurdish "political prisons". What is scary is that some Democrats speak more highly of Sadam and defend him more than there own president.

You know, I could go on but lets just see what we DO find in Iraq.......we will have our answer soon enough.

Originally posted by Rara:

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Originally posted by 2KSESport:

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And for the folks that whine about the loss of innocent lives, have you ever stopped to think about all of the innocent lives that are lost every day because someone like Saddam is in power over there? The man ordered chemical weapons used on his own people for crying out loud.

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Three points about this:

1. The Kurds are not Saddams "own people" and never have been. They are a semi-autonomous group of people living in semi-autonomous regions of Iraq and Turkey. Calling the Kurds Saddams "own people" is a gross simplification which the administration has used to take advantage of America's gross stupidity concerning world affairs.

2. Was Saddam justified in commiting genocide against the Kurds? Of course not. But does that justify an attack now, after all the intervening years when the position of the administration at the time of the gassing was blase at best? If our goal was to rescue or save the beleagured Kurds, then why were we desperately seeking the assistance of the Turks in this war? Did anyone consult the Kurds about this? Isn't anyone familiar with the history between the Turks and the Kurds? If there is anyone with a history of screwing over the Kurds more than the US, its the Turks.

3. Don't you think its ironic that Saddam ordered the chemical weapons from the good old US of A. It seems that the previous Bush administration thought that it was fine and dandy for Saddam to utilize chemical weapons against the Iranians. Did you ever hear this or any other administration complain about this use of chemical weapons.

It is a shame that so many Americans blindly accept the pretext that this war is taking place because of Saddam's gassing of the Kurds.

Originally posted by TheGreatOne:

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I could only imagine where we would be if someone like gore were in office. Shame on you.

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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by 95Mike:

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I'm kinda disappointed in how many people are turning their back on the president. The ones that do it because of the political ideology make me sick......

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