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NX makes a nice 'universal' Ford EFI Wet kit. Single nozzle.
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Again, why go thru all that work for a dry kit?
Yes I am yelling this time  
COMPUTER CONTROL OF EVERY ASPECT OF NITROUS INJECTION.
BEING ABLE TO CHANGE THE SHOT AT THE TOUCH OF A BUTTON.
RETURNLESS FUEL SYSTEM!!!
SEVERAL DIFFERENT MODES OF NITROUS INJECTION: LINEAR, DRAG, FACTOR DEPENDENT
COMPLETELY CUSTOM PROGRAMMABLE NITROUS CURVES!
BUILT IN DIGITAL RPM SWITCHES THAT ARE INTEGRATED RIGHT INTO THE NITROUS PROGRAM
EVERY ASPECT LAPTOP PROGRAMMABLE GIVING YOU INFINITE PRE TUNED SETTINGS TO CHOOSE FROM!
AUTOMATIC SAFEGUARDS: BUILT-IN BOTTLE PRESSURE & A/F MONITORING FOR INSTANCE
SO MUCH EASIER TO SETUP ON A RETURNLESS CAR
NO HASSLE WITH TUNING AND MAINTAINING A-WHOLE-NOTHER FUEL SYSTEM JUST FOR THE .0001% TIME YOU USE NITROUS! MUCH LESS THE WORK & COST INVOLVED FABRICATING AND MAINTAINING SUCH.
For all those "worried" about relying on the injectors to supply fuel. Why are you not worrying about them the other 99.999% of the time then? Honestly people. Think about it rationally for a second.
What about normal mods that increase power and the demand on the injectors?
What about the 3L swap that increases the demand?
What about forced induction?
On a returnless car the venom kit has been safely used to around peak of 245FWHP on the stock 19lb injectors. That's using just the venom controller too. Add in some custom tuning (spark curves, level out the A/F, etc) and who knows what the power band will look like.
Now factor in 24lbers on a 3L. At ~210-215FWHP they were only around 70% DC. That's a lot of pulse width to play with. Safely too I may add!
Much safer and more predictable then jacking up the stock fuel rail pressure.
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It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.
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Whatcha yelling about? Sounds to me your talking about the Venom kit. I was talking about the making of a dry 'fogger' 'direct port' what ever you want to call it :-P
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That's exactly what I am talking about.
Modifying a VCN-2000 kit to run direct port. All it's benefits, bells & whistles and top it with even distibution to each cylinder.
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Sold 1998 Contour LX 13.868 sec 1/4 mile time.
Two years of rental cars, seriously.
Holding out for 07 Cobra Mustang.
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Yea but it doesn;t say which car it works for...each Venom kit comes with an ECU unit that is taylored to work with a particular car and fuel system, im sure with some modifications you can get any venom kit to work on any system, but you still run the risk of the ECU unit being uncompatable.....Personally i don;t thing this kit is worth buying From Ebay
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Can you sell a Venon 2000 kit for $600?
That would be a great price, and a favor.
If so PM me.
Sold 1998 Contour LX 13.868 sec 1/4 mile time.
Two years of rental cars, seriously.
Holding out for 07 Cobra Mustang.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
The part that may take some doing is getting 5 more ends from Venom. The VCN-2000 kit has a special nozzle since their unique solenoid valve does all the metering.
You would not have to worry about that. The nozzles are the same one's that you would get from any dry kit. All the metering and computer controls are from the valve, O2 sensor, and tapping each injector. I think a direct port dry kit with the Venom system would be very easy to make, just time consuming.
2002 Mustang GT
H&R, Bilstein, NX, K&N, Bassani, and Prochamber
03 Cobra wheels, Goodyear Eagles: 275 fronts, 315 rears
325HP and 433 ft-lbs at the wheels
Old Car:
2000 SVT #463/2150
Best #'s - 268.5HP and 275.8 ft-lbs at the wheels
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I think what demon is saying is that you will need to get 5 more of the same nozzle because they oly give you 4 nozzles in a kit, all different sizes. It makes no sense on why you would use a diffrent size nozzle on each port. You need same size nozzles to deliever equal amounts of nitrous to each port.
And by the way, Vanom only makes dry kits! None of there kits are wet kits....its a common mis-understanding about venom.
Oh and I talked with Greg From Venom (who also worked on NOS brad nitrous direct port projects for 10 years, before comming to venom)And he said why they do not make actual direct kits for dry nitrous.
1) Its would have to high of an install time.
2) Direct port (from what he told me) is not nessicary unless your looking for over 150HP, which personaly i don;t think our cars could handel that much, and that the venom type system would be safer N-E-ways becasue there computer controls the a/f ration with the stock injectors and O2 Sensors....Thus, always replace your O2 sensores when you install this kit.
EDIT: but he did say that it was possible with venom kits to do it, but he does not reconmend it because he said in most cars you will ahve to make modifications to the manifold, and it would void any warrenty the kits have incase any of the parts fail due to maufaturer defect.
But he said he would liek to see it if done. EDIT
Roz
Last edited by Roz 1999 SVT-C; 03/20/03 04:33 PM.
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He was talking about the VCN-2000 kit. It has a variable valve, not interchangeable nozzles like the other kits.
2002 Mustang GT
H&R, Bilstein, NX, K&N, Bassani, and Prochamber
03 Cobra wheels, Goodyear Eagles: 275 fronts, 315 rears
325HP and 433 ft-lbs at the wheels
Old Car:
2000 SVT #463/2150
Best #'s - 268.5HP and 275.8 ft-lbs at the wheels
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