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Originally posted by todras:

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I would expect that from a Canadian. I'd like to hear your opinion if you lived in a country that is ruled by an insane dictator.

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Originally posted by abwamo:

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The minute the US got what they wanted "Kuwati oil" they forgot about their promise and left that mad man in power.

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because we've clearly occupied kuwait while exxon, shell, mobil, and BP have forged brand spanking new relationships with an oil rich nation. (might be news but the kuwaitis loved us before the gulf war and were happy to sell us oil in exchange for crispy american dollars (paper gold on the world stage))

idiot.

now i've had enough, the left can just go piss right into the goddamn wind cuz i'm gettin irate.

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Thank you for calling me an idiot, you just showed me your level of intellect. WOW did you get that out of a book at the library or off a pamphlet at university.
At first, I didnâ??t want to get into this discussion but when I saw the picture of the mother and the child presented with half the facts, I couldnâ??t resist not adding the missing facts. You might think Iâ??m wrong, but the way I see it if it wasnâ??t for the USâ??s encouragements many lives could have been saved. Once Kuwait was librated, the Americans forgot about the Kurds because they are making the $$$s from the Kuwait's oil and left Saddam slaughter the innocent like rats. These people were filled with empty promises and they fought with the US to bring Saddam down and were let DOWN by the US. I guess they didn't have the $$$s to pay back the cost of the war and Saddam did.
Maybe the UN's missions wasnâ??t to invade Baghdad and remove Saddam in '91 or maybe because Saddam was worth over $20billion and the US didn't want him dead before they get hold of his $accounts$. The US government have been trying to get hold of Saddam's $accounts$ since the Gulf war but up to date were unsuccessful. Once they realized that they are not getting the $$$s, the US decided to go back (now in 2003) and remove Saddam and his government with UNâ??s approval or not. Even if the 91 mission wasnâ??t to get rid of Saddam, the US would have got rid of him if it was for their best $interest$ at the time with or without UNâ??s approval. Itâ??s not like it is stopping them now.
Yes Saddam was left in power because of the USâ??s greed$$$, and many Kurds like the ones in the picture were sold for an American Dollar$ or maybe $Two$.

Originally posted by BlacknBlue:

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But how good is that information really?

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Originally posted by sigma:

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As for facts, I see none being presented from either side here. Because there are no facts, at least none that any here has access to present. Only opinions.

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Originally posted by sigma:

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Those are all mighty interesting "insights" there, Speed Demon. Did you get those from Rush Limbaugh, or did you think of those all by yourself?

I must ask though, do you actually read the posts you criticize, because there's a small hole in your argument...

I'm not a liberal.

I'm a conservative. And a Bush voter. And a veteran. And (generally) a supporter of the (almost certainly) upcoming hostilities.

As for facts, I see none being presented from either side here. Because there are no facts, at least none that any here has access to present. Only opinions. None are particularly more relevant, correct, or valid than others, but some are more educated than others. And there are rather equal number of respectable, educated arguments on both sides of the fence.

So, you can take your unilateral, "idiotic" discussion elsewhere. Let the big boys talk politics intellectually, because it's quite obvious that you are incapable of even basic reading comprehension if you can't even discern someone's view of the situation.

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and this is me still being human, i apologize for coming off harshly. My recent overexposure to blithering idiots specifically with regard to this war has tainted my view a bit and caused me quite a bit of mental distress just trying to understand these people. At any rate i over-reacted, apologies.

as for my 'insight' it doesnt come from rush, i dont even listen to or like the guy after reading one of his books (i can't remember which one for the life of me (its at home, i'm not)) it just sorta struck me whilst reading through editorials and the like last night on the web.

so in conclusion, i still support the war, and by and large i am irate with people who don't. It is my personal belief that those who dont support the erradication of saddam from the world stage are still a bit hazy in the head, he has gassed his own people (fact), he has gassed iranians (fact), he has laid siege and waste to other nations (kuwait(fact)), and we all know from history containment is a policy akin to playing russian roulette (if you play long enough you're gonna die). I firmly believe that people who think we're going to colonize the middle-east are freakin bonkers. While we may, indeed as a side effect, make the region a bit more hospitable to the west that is not colonizing, its extending a bit of influence (which every country with the opportunity is guilty of and is not against international law)

so yeah, we can all be friends if we dont agree on politics