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Originally posted by bkent:
I say if you are so anti american, move. I hate all the people that live in this country under the protection and freedoms that so many have fought and died for, and run their mouth about how bad we are. Leave then.
Why do you say that someone is anti-american who doesn't
agree with you ? Why are you preaching about freedom if
you can't tolerate different opinions ?
Isn't that ironic when a champion of freedom and democracy
says "who's not with us is against us" ?
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Originally posted by tiv:
Originally posted by bkent:
I say if you are so anti american, move. I hate all the people that live in this country under the protection and freedoms that so many have fought and died for, and run their mouth about how bad we are. Leave then.
Why do you say that someone is anti-american who doesn't
agree with you ? Why are you preaching about freedom if
you can't tolerate different opinions ?
Isn't that ironic when a champion of freedom and democracy
says "who's not with us is against us" ?
T.
I don't think he said Rabbit was anti-american because he disagreed, I think he is saying Rabbit is anti-american because Rabbit IS anti-american. "Calling it as he sees it" is my opinion.
If we are for Freedom and Democracy and Someone else is not, then you ARE against us. Freedom and Democracy have to be defended from those against it!
Rabbit is on the attack (an attack rabbit?), calling the U.S. cowardly (in ww2) and that Iraq is Oil and Bush vendetta only without any genuine U.S. interest. Maybe Rabbit can go to Iraq and be a Human Shield for Saddam.
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Saying that the United States is "spineless" and "cowards", that is what makes him Anti-American. He's probably French.
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If we are for Freedom and Democracy and Someone else is not, then you ARE against us. Freedom and Democracy have to be defended from those against it!
Just because someone is against making another country "free" and "democratic" doesn't mean they are against democracy or "anti-american".
Millions of men fought and died for my right to question my President, and stand up and say "Hey, I don't think that's right" in any way I want, as long as I'm not breaching anyone else's rights.
State your beliefs, debate (cooly) your beliefs, but don't down other people for theirs, and sure as hell don't say the someone should leave the country because they are excercising the basic rights of a democracy. Don't be claiming to defend something that you don't wish to foster yourself.
So, if you want to heckle someone for their beliefs or exile someone from a nation because of them, I suggest that you leave the US. There's lots of dictatorships out there that you would fit right at home in.
If millions of men died for my right to question and criticize my government, and I feel the need to do so, then I will do so. If you don't excercise that right, then all those men died in vain.
And, just to keep it more on topic, that picture is a picture that could be used to defend both sides POV. France has dozens of those cemeteries, full of literally millions of bodies, and every single town has a monument to the fallen of WW1 and WW2. They don't any reminding the horror of war. When the memory of war is something that you're faced with everyday you have a different perspective on the matter. Again, don't down someone for their view, they just have a different way of looking at things than you do. If you had similar life experiences you would probably think the same way no matter how "smart" you are. Because opinion rarely has to do with intelligence.
And yes if it wasn't for the US, the French would be speaking German right now. But if it wasn't for France we wouldn't even be a democracy; we'd be speaking the Queen's English and taking a tea-time right now. So let's call it even and stop bringing up a stupid moot point.
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I think...if we are not carefull...we could be speaking Korean in the next couple of months/years  They have the nukes too, and the largest military in the world. I don't want war and no one else does either. I believe, to some extent, that it is crucial to the safety of not only the U.S but to the whole U.N . Saddam is playing games with the U.N not so that he can sit back and laugh.....Duuhhhh he is hiding something. I was watching the Jay lenno show the other night and he made a good point....He said "setting a date for saddam to let the U.N carry on with weapons inspection is just like a mother telling her kid that in 4 months she is going to check his room for weed" There will not be any weed in the kids room. Same for Saddam. I say nuke their ass and take the gas  When a madman like Husain has biological weapons he won't be afrain to use them...especially if he tested them on his own people first  Get with the program people..stop being so blind. Yes politics is a factor in this but look at the facts and look what has to be done for everyones safety. All of what i said is just My opinion so i am sorry if you don't agree.
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Originally posted by tourman113:
I think...if we are not carefull...we could be speaking Korean in the next couple of months/years They have the nukes too, and the largest military in the world. I don't want war and no one else does either. I believe, to some extent, that it is crucial to the safety of not only the U.S but to the whole U.N . Saddam is playing games with the U.N not so that he can sit back and laugh.....Duuhhhh he is hiding something. I was watching the Jay lenno show the other night and he made a good point....He said "setting a date for saddam to let the U.N carry on with weapons inspection is just like a mother telling her kid that in 4 months she is going to check his room for weed" There will not be any weed in the kids room. Same for Saddam. I say nuke their ass and take the gas When a madman like Husain has biological weapons he won't be afrain to use them...especially if he tested them on his own people first Get with the program people..stop being so blind. Yes politics is a factor in this but look at the facts and look what has to be done for everyones safety. All of what i said is just My opinion so i am sorry if you don't agree.
You think nuking a country is cool? Your a [censored] joke. The sad fact is there are millions of other clowns like you that want to "turn the country into a sheet of glass."
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Ok, we can let him nuke us first if you want....what do you think is going to happen if we let him get away with having nukes.....think here, its not that hard.....you are right.....he is going to use them eventually. whether it be on us or someone else. We can sit here and keep pushing the deadline back but all thats doing is letting him move them to different places. This is a kill or be killed situation. We are part of the U.N..half of us want war and the other half don't. There is no real answer...only opinions. Just remember..the roman empire fell, just because we are the superpower of the world doesn't mean that we can't fall too. The first step in that is letting other countries led by mad men...have nuclear weapons. Thats my opinion and just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean i am a joke. Your opinion can be argued against just the same as mine....We are all in the same boat here just remember. We have no control over what bush will do..he is president that is why we elected him.
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We have no control over what bush will do..he is president that is why we elected him.
***must... resist... urge...***
That one is just too easy. 
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After reading all the posts in this forum I have but one question to ask. What is America's stand on China. They continue to hold bombing tests as the rest of the world argues about disarming Iraq. They have recently backed out of a disarming treaty yet no world uproar. Ah but if China was a world leader in crude oil production I think it would be a different story.
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Originally posted by sigma:
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We have no control over what bush will do..he is president that is why we elected him.
***must... resist... urge...***
That one is just too easy.
Ughh,yeah, left it open 
You catch my drift though...thanks for not bit$%ing at me 
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