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Well since there are only THREE to choose from, it shouldn't be too difficult to get in touch with the companies and find out the info you are looking for. Chris from CTA Motorsports has been more than helpful to me in the past. As Hector said, it can be expensive to dyno after each mod that you do--it adds up to $80 to the cost of the mod.
AFAIK, people have the CTA or the KKM. Several people have said the CTA is better than the KKM. I don't know of anyone that has the OBX.
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I've got mods.
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Originally posted by LocoChick'95: Well since there are only THREE to choose from, it shouldn't be too difficult to get in touch with the companies and find out the info you are looking for. Chris from CTA Motorsports has been more than helpful to me in the past. As Hector said, it can be expensive to dyno after each mod that you do--it adds up to $80 to the cost of the mod.
AFAIK, people have the CTA or the KKM. Several people have said the CTA is better than the KKM. I don't know of anyone that has the OBX.
I have had both. CTA is better, hands down.
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
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As y'all kmow, I am a newbie, so sorry if my line of reasoning in twisted. Anyway, upon noticing that the cone air filter (such as KKM's) connect to the MAF, I was wondering on tube intakes such as OBX or CTA, if I were to remove the MAF, would it be street leagal? Thanks and sorry for any ADDITIONAL stupidity
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Bernardo Bourges' CTA CAI,
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car will not run without a MAF.
2003 Subaru WRX some mods
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MAF measures air in the going into the intake, you need it. just buy a CTA intake, it's good. or wait for one of these supposed true cold air intakes to come out.
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Originally posted by ContourZetec: VCT doesn't give you HP it is strictly an EMISSION CONTROL unit.
This is not entirely correct. The VCT enables Ford to use longer duration cams, still meet emissions requirments and provide a stable idle.
(ZX2 with VCT) Intake: 214 deg @0.050, 0.367" lift Exhaust: 211-2 deg @0.050, 0.338" lift
(Focus w/o VCT) Intake: 206 deg @0.050, 0.353: lift Exhaust: 205 deg @0.050, 0.343" lift
The exhaust VCT advances the exhaust cam 30 crank deg under PCM control. Advancing the exhaust cam reduces the intake-exhaust overlap by the same amount. At low rpm this results in a better idle and more torque using longer duration cams. The European tuners have learned how to use VCT to their advantage with longer duration cams.
In the Focus engine, Ford used a better intake and exhaust manifold and better flowing cat to compensate for the shorter duration cams while meeting emissions.
For a high rpm race engine that does not have to meet emissions or streetabilty requirements you are correct. VCT does not provide any performance benefits.
However, if you need to meet emissions and want a stable idle, then VCT does allow the use of higher performance cams. People have reported passing emissions tests using cams with durations greater than 220 deg and lifts above 0.390, if the VCT and catalyst were operating.
Having VCT on both intake and exhaust cams (similar to the BMW dual VANOS system) would be ideal, but we have to make do with what we have.
People have talked about a adding a centrifugal mechanism to retard the intake cam with increasing rpm (similar to what Mercedes did on the twin cam 6 over 30 years ago) in conjuction with the exhaust VCT. Due to the complexity no one has acted on this idea. It might be possible to add a centrifugal mechanism to an adjustable cam gear.
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