96BlackSE, you have made your point and are about to become a nuisance and an agitator - both in this post and the one AutumnOrange placed in the Duratec Performnce forum. What are you, some kind of CEG stalker?

I just spent almost $700 for a set of MSDS headers last month so I have the right to comment here â?? and I am familiar with the past controversy! I say let these guys offer an alternative to the MSDS system in peace.

Think about the large number of manufacturers that are making 5.0L mustang shorty headers. Except for differences in materials, coatings and in some cases workmanship, they all look roughly the same to me. They all bolt to the same engine and attach to the same stock exhaust system points. They all have to fit in the same restricted space.

Certainly there was a company somewhere that offered the first shorty header design for that platform. Equally certain there is to this day some crazy fool running about with his hair on fire telling anyone who will listen that so and so was first and you shouldnâ??t buy from anyone else because their product is a rip-off.

Incidentally, do to market pressure, competition, and demand, 5.0L headers have become so inexpensive that they are within the financial reach of any enthusiast.


Let it rest! There is a time-honored solution to the problem of intellectual property and design theft in this country. It is called the legal system!

Unless these guys are breaking the law by offering this product, they deserve to be allowed to market it based on its own merits.

If they are breaking some law, then I think Marty at MSDS is very capable of handling this on his own without you being involved. Just the fact that you could be wrong is reason enough to shut up about it.

This website serves the interests of a much larger group of contour enthusiast than just you and your pet peeve. I donâ??t think it is in CEGâ??s interest for members to harass any of the few vendors who actually offer something for our cars.

You got a problem with these guys selling headers! Spend your energy convincing MSDS to take them to court. Harassing and slandering someone who is legally offering their product for sale is a criminal offense in itself (think about that!).

In my case, well, I am a capitalist at heart and Iâ??ve always liked the look of T-304 stainless steelâ?¦




99 Tropic Green SVT, Tan Leather, 20K miles, "Nice Twin" (factory stock). 99 Tropic Green SVT, Tan Leather, 28K miles, "Evil Twin" (Turbo AER 3L and more in progress) 96 Red LX, Opal Grey Leather 2.5L, ATX, 22K miles