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I'm not trying to piss you off or be a hater I'm just trying to understand the consept, thats all. I would like to see more info and data and a ruf diagram. It does sound very intresting.

Tell the people that I am sorry for having said anything. If they want to know more about this I will be glad to explain this to them if full detail. I may need to go to California in a month or so, at that time I will have more details. The company will be working on the Motor Home conversions and start on the marine diesel conversions. Tell them I am NOT a bad person Greg, I try to get along with everyone and I was a Skeptic on this at first myself.

I suggest some of the people here do a little research of their own before they start jumping down someone's throat screaming "That's not possible! It can't be done!"

Citation's Dad is far from the first to do this. The potential uses of plasma, or the combination of various materials in plasma-like states, to power automobiles has been researched for almost 20 years by legitimate research institutions like MIT, and corporations, and the programs have been remarkably successful. There are companies that market the technology. I recall reading about a company called Promo Technology marketing the training and products necessary.

Just because you haven't heard about it, or it seems totally stupid, impossible, or "retarded" to you, doesn't mean it's not possible. People said the same thing about the automobile 150 years ago -- but someone made it anyways.

Possible? Yes, it's been done. Practical? That will take more research.

WOW man , i have been wanting to here something like this since i started the topic. I was shoked to find out that 99% of the people that made a reply was either a Azzhole OR 100% negative and leaving smart remarks " SteddaSVT" "Motorcity" and so many other . These people discussed me. Thats why im leaving this forum soon casue i cant stand these kind of people, just sickning.

Anyone have a Plasma TV? Not the same plasma that is in your blood, it is a gas and when energized it forms a picture.

I am sure that it has many other states and variuous uses, how you fill up the tank would be interesting to hear though....

I found this website

http://www.electricalternative.com/modifications_to_run_existing_ve.htm

It sounds pretty much like what you're talking about

Not Bashing, just informing.

That�??s not plasma, its steam and vaporized gasoline. The electron shells of the individuals atoms are intact, it does not conduct electricity and it does not generate a magnetic field. It is also about 3 or 4 orders of magnitude too cool to be a plasma! A plasma created by heating water and gasoline would not even burn �??since burning is the result of the energy exchanged via electron bonds between molecules breaking and reforming. In a plasma molecules have been disassociated into their component atoms and electrons certainly are not bonding.

If citation10 had simply said something like �??I know this guy who modified an exhaust system to heat water to steam and then injects a mixture of that steam and gasoline into his intake manifold to run the engine..�?� everyone would probably have said �??cool�?� and left it at that. Of course that�??s not what happened.

What does plasma-like mean? It is a new term to me. In my experience matter is either in the plasma state or not. Are you using it to mean vapor-like? In that case just say vapor

Tiny amounts of plasma is formed in plasma displays as a source of ultraviolet radiation that can then be used by solid state electronic components to produce colored (monochromatic) visible light. Plasma is used in many applications where efficient sources of radiation are needed.

The only plasma engines I know of are theoretical designs for space-based rocket motors that produce thrust by accelerating charged plasma with solar or nuclear powered electromagnets.
Not something compatible with gasoline powered auto engines!

The issue people took with Citation10 was not so much over the technology but with the way he chose to present it. �?? all mysterious and science fiction like.

Worse than that, he let people get to him and started to rant... Keep your cool when confronted and you will discourage idiots.

P.S. water injection is commonly used in gasoline engines to slow flame front progression allowing higher compression, advanced timing, leaner mixtures and power - It is much like increasing octane. It is also a technology as old as the gasoline engine itself. Pre-heating the water with the exhaust system is a nice twist and I am interested.

I agree, it doesn't sound much like "plasma" to me, which is why I put it in quotation marks or used the term "plasma-like" because, while the people doing the research use the term plasma, I don't think it's suitable. But it is the term commonly used for this technology.

The only thing it common that the process has with plasma is that you are combining 2 hot materials and producing a gaseous state of the two homogenously mixed.