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Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
Originally posted by chknhwk:
My moneys on the Dodge. A buddy of mine bought a '93 R/T (non-turbo) like a week or two after I bought my '91 GT. He used to razz me b/c he made the same horsepower with two less liters.  LOL
We went at it a couple of times and he had no problem hanging with the Mustang.
dude your mustang must have been slow as hell then....or an auto...because when my 93 lx was bone stock(factory installed 3.73 gears)i smoked a guy in an r/t at memphis motorsports park he ran like a 15.2 or something like that to my 14.3...don't have the time slip anymore,so i'm not sure the exact times(but they were something similiar)not even close...the r/t's are way heavier than a fox stang,and have less torque,and should be way slower than a fox stang.....
and the twin turbo's weren't very fast either...when my lx had just the mentioned gears,march ram air,flowmaster exhaust,65mm tb,73 mm mass air,cobra intake,1.7 rocker arms,and pro 5.0 shifter i was running 13.3's to 13.5's,and the tt r/t's that used to frequent the track never ever ran anywhere near that fast....now that my stang is in the 12's i can hang with most of the stuff on the streets right now w/o any problems...
Nice! 12's are cool...
We never dragraced... Um. Just street stuff. Highway - top end pull was pretty decent I thought. I should have clarified. Sorry!  Never drag raced until the SVT.
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well that makes sense then..i thought you meant drag racing...my fault...yeah the r/t should have enough top end to hang with a stang at high speeds....yeah the 12's are definitely cool...although the stang isn't a daily driver anymore..its more of a toy that me and my brother share...
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Are you all forgetting that the Dodge Stealth R/T was an Amercian clone to the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4? It featured the 6G72 engine from Mistu that peaked at 325 bhp and around 315 lb-ft. Even with it's 3700+ curbweight, it still cleaned off 60 in easily under six seconds. Tough for a Contour to match... ...of course I could have totally missed the point of the thread and just felt like displaying what little car knowledge I possess.  
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Originally posted by svt_contour_r203:
Are you all forgetting that the Dodge Stealth R/T was an Amercian clone to the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4? It featured the 6G72 engine from Mistu that peaked at 325 bhp and around 315 lb-ft. Even with it's 3700+ curbweight, it still cleaned off 60 in easily under six seconds. Tough for a Contour to match...
...of course I could have totally missed the point of the thread and just felt like displaying what little car knowledge I possess.
yes you did miss the point of the thread  j/k...they were reffering to the NON turbo r/t that had only 222hp and ran 15's...and even the twin turbo r/t only ran 14's at best...the mitsubishi was the same only the twin turbo model(vr4)had the 325 hp rating...the non vr4 had the base NON turbo engine...
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yes you did miss the point of the thread j/k
Kinda figured that after I posted. But I could swear that R/Ts were the turbo ones. I don't recall there being a non TT R/T...I could be losing it though.
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a mitsu vr4 had a twin turbo, with 325 peak and 3700+lbs, the base had non turbo called an SL model. Last year of the 3000gt models ran a 0-60 in under 5..like 4.9
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Originally posted by chknhwk:
My moneys on the Dodge. A buddy of mine bought a '93 R/T (non-turbo) like a week or two after I bought my '91 GT. He used to razz me b/c he made the same horsepower with two less liters. LOL
We went at it a couple of times and he had no problem hanging with the Mustang.
I don't think a CSVT would have any pr.blems hanging with a stock '91 stang GT.
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Originally posted by SpeedTeufel:
Originally posted by chknhwk:
My moneys on the Dodge. A buddy of mine bought a '93 R/T (non-turbo) like a week or two after I bought my '91 GT. He used to razz me b/c he made the same horsepower with two less liters. LOL
We went at it a couple of times and he had no problem hanging with the Mustang.
I don't think a CSVT would have any pr.blems hanging with a stock '91 stang GT.
um ok a stock csvt will NOT hang with a '91 stang unless it is an automatic...a STOCK fox bodied stang with a manual will run deep into the 14's and a 5.9 0-60...a csvt unless supercharged(or demonsvt's)will NOT hang with that...i own a csvt,and have owned SEVERAL foxbodied stangs(including my current 12 second '93 lx),and my svt is not nearly as quick as any of the stangs i've owned....300 lb.ft. of torque is awesome in a 3000# car....never underestimate a fox stang, with gears and a couple bolt ons they are solid 13 second cars,and with a few more mods a very easy 12 second car...a bone stock stang with 3.73 gears is very capable of high 13 second 1/4 mile times.....
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Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
Originally posted by SpeedTeufel:
Originally posted by chknhwk:
My moneys on the Dodge. A buddy of mine bought a '93 R/T (non-turbo) like a week or two after I bought my '91 GT. He used to razz me b/c he made the same horsepower with two less liters. LOL
We went at it a couple of times and he had no problem hanging with the Mustang.
I don't think a CSVT would have any pr.blems hanging with a stock '91 stang GT.
um ok a stock csvt will NOT hang with a '91 stang unless it is an automatic...a STOCK fox bodied stang with a manual will run deep into the 14's and a 5.9 0-60...a csvt unless supercharged(or demonsvt's)will NOT hang with that...i own a csvt,and have owned SEVERAL foxbodied stangs(including my current 12 second '93 lx),and my svt is not nearly as quick as any of the stangs i've owned....300 lb.ft. of torque is awesome in a 3000# car....never underestimate a fox stang, with gears and a couple bolt ons they are solid 13 second cars,and with a few more mods a very easy 12 second car...a bone stock stang with 3.73 gears is very capable of high 13 second 1/4 mile times.....
Thats not been my experience. But then hey what do I know.
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Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
Originally posted by SpeedTeufel:
Originally posted by chknhwk:
My moneys on the Dodge. A buddy of mine bought a '93 R/T (non-turbo) like a week or two after I bought my '91 GT. He used to razz me b/c he made the same horsepower with two less liters. LOL
We went at it a couple of times and he had no problem hanging with the Mustang.
I don't think a CSVT would have any pr.blems hanging with a stock '91 stang GT.
um ok a stock csvt will NOT hang with a '91 stang unless it is an automatic...a STOCK fox bodied stang with a manual will run deep into the 14's and a 5.9 0-60...a csvt unless supercharged(or demonsvt's)will NOT hang with that...i own a csvt,and have owned SEVERAL foxbodied stangs(including my current 12 second '93 lx),and my svt is not nearly as quick as any of the stangs i've owned....300 lb.ft. of torque is awesome in a 3000# car....never underestimate a fox stang, with gears and a couple bolt ons they are solid 13 second cars,and with a few more mods a very easy 12 second car...a bone stock stang with 3.73 gears is very capable of high 13 second 1/4 mile times.....
Thats not been my experience. But then hey what do I know.
warmonger
i have been around and owned mustang for years,and there is no way in hell that a 200 hp front wheel drive car can hang with a 5 speed 225 hp/300 lb. ft. of torque rear wheel drive car period.....i have an svt,and while its fairly quick,it in no way is anywhere near as fast as any 5 speed foxbodied stang......i don't see any svt's on here that run any lower than 14's that includes supercharged and 3l cars too...there are thousands of fox stangs that are running removed intake silencers,k+n's,3.73 gears,and flowmaster exhausts that are well into the 13's....now auto stangs are a different story those aod tranny's suck a$$,but a 5speed....
i can personally tell you from experience,that these cars are faster....my 93 lx is in the 12's with minimal mods..exhaust,gears,heads,cam,and intake.....
don't get me wrong i love svt's...hell i retired my stang to strip/weekend toy duty,when i got my svt..great cars they are,but they are not faster than a fox bodied stang..now as with all things there will be exceptions,but in general MOST(not every single one)fox stangs will outrun MOST(not every single one) svt's,and that's just a fact....
hell it was the explosion of the fox mustang aftermarket that started everyone trying to mod their cars for performance...the stang scene was huge...when the aftermarket companies saw the amount of modding to these cars,stuff started becoming available for all types of cars...modding as we know it now might not be what it is today if it wasn't for the 5.0 mustang...
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