well. i know NosContour and I dont know the other guy..... but if you have him where working together...... you should have comunicated better with each other. But, I will ask Lucas. But, you are supposed to be a business man, but you make a comment that we are acting like dicks???? lol.... Well you just lost my business... and I am sure a few others on here too.....Good Luck selling your Clutches on here.....