The only thing I would add is the odvious. We are on this car forum because we like the contique and its traits. Just as there are die hard Civic lovers. We share the same feeling just towards a different car. I truely believe that if alot of these reviewers spent a longer period of time with their cars, they would have a greater appreciation. Just remember they don't matter when your behind the wheel of what you probably consider a gem. As Horsedug said. There are 4 of us in southern Ontario that own 2 contiques each for some odd reason. Hmmmm SVT exhaust droooooool........