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Hey Hector, Given the Quater Mile time of 16.8 that the stock Z24 has, wouldn;t yours at 16.9 be slower??? Hey don't take it personally,im just pointing out something i noticed. unless you find antoher site that states other wise then im going to believe what Car and Driver says.
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Originally posted by rozwell911:
OK, away from mods, given that different shapes cause different areodynamics, take an MTX Zetec and MTX Z24, given the cavalier has slightly more HP AND lighter weight shouldn't it beat the contour which is heavier and has less power?
Im not trying to say the Zetec is slow becasue i have dirven them they are very quick cars stock. BUt I have also been in my cousins 1999 Z24 and with me in the car with him, we beat a few stock Zetecs.
Not by much, but we did win. Now weather they know how to drive or not I don;t know, and I know that a small number we raced had intakes and exahust. Now this is only from my experiences....everyone has different ones...now my question is, With these 2 major variables in favor of the Z24, and my experiences that i have witnessed in favor of the z24, how can it be slower than a Zetec?
Here is a quote from car and driver:
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Chevy Intros Cavalier Z24
February 16, 2001
.......Under the hood, the Z24 has a 2.4L twin cam L4 engine that cranks out 150-hp and 155 lb.-ft. of torque. The car also has a sport suspension system.
Ok it has 150 HO and 155 tourque...... now here is the specs for the engine
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Displacement:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 146 cu in, 2392cc
Power (SAE net). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .150 bhp 5600 rpm
Torque (SAE net). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 155 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm
Transmission. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4-speed automatic
Wheelbase. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 104. in
Length. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 180.7 in
Curb weight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3000 lb
Zero to 60 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .8.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .27.7 sec
Street start, 560 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .8.9 sec
Standing 1/4-mile. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16.8 sec @ 82 mph
Top speed (govemor limited). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 107 mph
Braking, 700 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .190 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0.79 g
Theres all the data....withing the time i had to post this i didnt have enough to post the zetec for comparison. If some one could please then we can all see where the cars are stock.
Roz
Thank you and that 16.8 is with a great driver. 
Hector
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Actually that was the adverage. which means there were better times and worse times. Which means that with a driver which knows his stuff, any stock z24 can out match a stock zetec. And even so on, a mtx z24 can beat a atx zetec.
Again the mtx vs mtx is with above adverage drivers.
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Originally posted by rozwell911:
Here is a quote from car and driver:
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Chevy Intros Cavalier Z24
February 16, 2001
.......Under the hood, the Z24 has a 2.4L twin cam L4 engine that cranks out 150-hp and 155 lb.-ft. of torque. The car also has a sport suspension system.
Ok it has 150 HO and 155 tourque...... now here is the specs for the engine
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Displacement:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 146 cu in, 2392cc
Power (SAE net). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .150 bhp 5600 rpm
Torque (SAE net). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 155 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm
Transmission. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4-speed automatic
Wheelbase. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 104. in
Length. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 180.7 in
Curb weight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3000 lb
Zero to 60 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .8.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .27.7 sec
Street start, 560 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .8.9 sec
Standing 1/4-mile. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16.8 sec @ 82 mph
Top speed (govemor limited). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 107 mph
Braking, 700 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .190 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0.79 g
Um...those are the times for the convertable z24, which is a considerable amount heavier than the standard.
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last week my friend said he has a Zetec engine in his Z24...I don't know where he got that from but thats not true is it??
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Nope...maybe Ecotec? 
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OOPS and it was also with a 4 speed automatic.....so guess what...the MTX z24 IS faster.
Sorry guys, by trying to prove the Zetecs may be right, i proved they were wrong by mistake.
Im going to have to side with demon completly in this issue...theres almost I say almost, no way for an MTX Zetech to beat an MTX Z24 unless it is a convertable with a 4 speed auto.
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Originally posted by rozwell911:
unless it is a convertable with a 4 speed auto.
and the Zetec is modded,
and the Zetec driver drives absolutely perfect,
and the Z24 driver doesn't know how to drive.
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In your own words....rofl.  Originally posted by tourman113:
I have a confession....I have been beaten many times by my buddies . His brother has one and there is such a huge difference between them its not funny. The guy with the older beats so bad.Its like really sad. They beat me off really bad and i can never gain any ground... To me i think this whole issue has been beaten to death. I just can't see it happening with my past experience with them. They are light and though they still don't have much they are quick little bastids and can't hang .
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Originally posted by LoCoZeTeC2.0:
Reactionary!? I feel the same way I did last night. Some people think since we have a Zetec we are lower then you SVT owners.
 Well actually you're lower (and slower) than us regular duratec guys too
THAT WAS JUST A JOKE - I mean hey, Perry drives a zetec and Perry is cool, and Turbo Tom drives a zetec and his is fast - so I think that means all Zetec owners are cool and drive really fast cars
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