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You guys just crack me up
I have had the best dam turbo kit on the market for the Zetec and the only fuel solution other than a stand alone or a mickey mouse FMU and not addressing any timing
Now its the only one out for the SVT focus and again the only fuel solution for it as well
Yet not one of you guys are willing to step up and do a turbo kit ,You guys just sit here and [censored] about ,Oh that cant be a mis fire iv seen lots of them and that aint one,yea i agree it cant be ,Oh no way
You guys need to get out more ITS A MIS FIRE
When you guys want to go fast CALL ME
Tom
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Originally posted by 1turbofocus:
You guys just crack me up
I have had the best dam turbo kit on the market for the Zetec and the only fuel solution other than a stand alone or a mickey mouse FMU and not addressing any timing
Now its the only one out for the SVT focus and again the only fuel solution for it as well
Yet not one of you guys are willing to step up and do a turbo kit ,You guys just sit here and [censored] about ,Oh that cant be a mis fire iv seen lots of them and that aint one,yea i agree it cant be ,Oh no way
You guys need to get out more ITS A MIS FIRE
When you guys want to go fast CALL ME
Tom
1. No one speaking in this conversation has a ZETEC.
2. If it was a mis fire then why wouldn't you simply get better plugs and gap them tigher. Then do a run and post it? Why supply a graph that looks like that?
3. If I remember correctly we all gave you recognition for your achievements and stated that there was something needed to correct that problem but the numbers were impressive. No one was knocking you or your kit.
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You guys just crack me up
Good to see we can keep you amused.
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I have had the best dam turbo kit on the market for the Zetec and the only fuel solution other than a stand alone or a mickey mouse FMU and not addressing any timing
Good for you, do you want a brownie button?
Yes, I do agree with you that most of the fuel solutions out there are pretty Mickey Mouse, and I applaud you for figuring out your own that adresses fuel and timing, assumingly properly (I am not familiar w/ your tuning strategy)
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Now its the only one out for the SVT focus and again the only fuel solution for it as well
I think another brownie button is in order here.
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Yet not one of you guys are willing to step up and do a turbo kit
Oh, I am more than willing to do a turbo kit. Problem is, I'm in the OEM business, and if I do a turbo on a vehicle, its not a kit . . .
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You guys just sit here and [censored] about ,Oh that cant be a mis fire iv seen lots of them and that aint one,yea i agree it cant be ,Oh no way
I just call it like I see it. Of course, Mark happened to see it first.
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Granted, I wasn't there to see the run, and see exactly how the vehicle behaved, BUT a misfire that drops ~75 hp, continues to rev up another 500+ rpm, then magically clears up all the way to redline . . . doesn't seem quite right to me in my professional opinion. Worldtour also has more than his share of dyno plots that are ruined by misfire's at higher rpm under boost, which show a decidedly different characteristics than yours.
Anyway, my point being, I don't think it appears to be as simple as a misfire or spark blowout because of improper gap as you indicated in that other thread, mostly because it would have gotten worse as rpms increased if that were the case.
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No offense, but if I want to go fast, I won't be running a zetec, unless its on a Formula Ford or a Caterham 7. Heck, even Ford is bailing on the zetec. (not that that says a whole lot . . .)
In all seriousness, you need to relax man. No one was digging on the kit or anything about it, people were just disagreeing with your quick dispelling of the hiccup in the plot as a simple misfire due to improperly gapped plugs. You make assumptions about those that disagree with you (namely me and Worldtour specifically) without knowing what we do, or our background in matters like this. Quit taking everything as a personal insult.
On Edit - I can think of another Duratec/Zetec aftermarket person/shop that seems to take everything terribly personally and has drastically hurt his business in doing so. I wouldn't recommend doing the same if you want to succeed as a business.
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Originally posted by 1turbofocus:
You guys just crack me up
I have had the best dam turbo kit on the market for the Zetec and the only fuel solution other than a stand alone or a mickey mouse FMU and not addressing any timing
Now its the only one out for the SVT focus and again the only fuel solution for it as well
Yet not one of you guys are willing to step up and do a turbo kit ,You guys just sit here and [censored] about ,Oh that cant be a mis fire iv seen lots of them and that aint one,yea i agree it cant be ,Oh no way
You guys need to get out more ITS A MIS FIRE
When you guys want to go fast CALL ME
Tom
Tom,
Did you even read my original post? It wasn't intended to put down your kit or as a flame!! I just don't agree that its a simple misfire from improperly gapped plugs. As per our old argument about the FMU, I want to apologise as I was incorrect and a little brainwashed at the time.
Tom, if you have any question about my background or what I do for a living ask "Alan" who I am...
-Mark
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Originally posted by 1turbofocus:
You guys just crack me up
I have had the best dam turbo kit on the market for the Zetec and the only fuel solution other than a stand alone or a mickey mouse FMU and not addressing any timing
Now its the only one out for the SVT focus and again the only fuel solution for it as well
Yet not one of you guys are willing to step up and do a turbo kit ,You guys just sit here and [censored] about ,Oh that cant be a mis fire iv seen lots of them and that aint one,yea i agree it cant be ,Oh no way
You guys need to get out more ITS A MIS FIRE
When you guys want to go fast CALL ME
Tom
If you were a true business man you would have re-run the car after regapping the plugs and then posted the good dyno plot. IMO one of two things is happening here... 1.) You are a sh!tty business man or 2.) The issue is not a mis-fire and you are having big problems straightening it out.
Either way, fix your issue and take the time to do the R+D before your blow your load. That is how you turn a one-off into a production kit. Until then, have fun with your "One-Off".
SVT Parts For Sale!PM Me.
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Who does have the best turbo kit here? How much did it cost? Did you use a 3" exhaust? Air to air intercooler? Bet i can beat the price you pad for it!! And after that ill race you in my cat and beat you at that to  (j/k)
HKS filter, 75mm programmed Maf, SVT TB, SVT intake plinum, UR underdrive pulley, MSD Dig. ignition with Vitech 8.5 wires, 42lb injectors, Garret T28 turbo, air to air intercooler with nitrous installed,
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Guys Guys I was not upset at all ,Like i said you guys crack me up i was LOL why i typing it I also have many tuning runs under my belt over 10,000 i think i know what a misfire is also ,Not that any one here does not Why did i post that run? It was the best run of the day and i was out of time and will to do more ,I knew what the dip was because i was driving the car and im (unlike other buisnesses) am not afraid to show what happens some times in the real world of tuning ,Would you rather have all 100% perfect dyno runs posted ,Thats not me im going to show you the GOOD the BAD and the UGLY As for this being a oneoff its not there is 3 of them out there now This one will be at all the Fun Ford Weekends and before summer we WILL see 300+ on the ALL stock engine Tom
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Originally posted by 1turbofocus:
...Would you rather have all 100% perfect dyno runs posted ,Thats not me im going to show you the GOOD the BAD and the UGLY...
At least one good Dyno plot would be a start. All I saw was The Bad and The UGLY. How about posting just one good one for us?
Originally posted by 1turbofocus:
As for this being a oneoff its not there is 3 of them out there now ...
Tom
I mean no bash, as I am sure your kit is awesome, but to sell the kit you must show that you have a quality product, not one with a Man-Hole sized hole in it. Show us the good run.
SVT Parts For Sale!PM Me.
2006 M6 Cyclone Gray GTO
1995 Mazda Protege Commuter Special
93 FXDWG Dyna Wide Glide
I'm A TROLL Now!~
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