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Do you know what the torque split on the escape is?
Under normal circumstances:
60/40 with the CD4E
77/33 with the G5MR
If you lock 4wd via locking the RBC (fluid type clutch, non viscous):
50/50 for both
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Actually, if you pull the stock gas tank and made a saddle-style tank, you should be able to fit it
I dunno man... our rear sub frame looks like childs play when compared to this one
Funny but true fact, the Mazda 323GTR also uses a G5MR tranny and has awd. That car is probably going to be harder to come by than the Jag, but probably cheaper to use that drive train if the Escape doesn't work out.
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sorry, its a dead link.
Let me see what you've come up with. I don't think the escape parts are a direct bolt in, fabrication will be required. I just want the power take-off to be bolt on so I can do the rest of the work with the engine and trans in the car.
warmonger
Former owner of '99 CSVT - Silver #222/2760
356/334 wHP/TQ at 10psi on pump gas!
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'05 Volvo S40 Turbo 5 AWD with 6spd, Passion Red
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I've spent several days last week working under an X-type at work. I tried to study it rather closely to see how it compares to the Contour for interchangability...
The PTO is more or less appended to the transaxle, but it contains the center differential, and then drives back into the trans to send torque to the front diff. So its not a simple corner bender, and the trans that goes with it is a bit unique. Removing the PTO from the car is a big PITA, but it can be done. The car I was working on was a 5-speed, and it looked like a version of the MTX75, but I'll have to check again. We've got another X-Type that's an automatic, but I don't have an automatic Contour to compare to.
As was mentioned, you'd have to make a mount for the propshaft center bearing, and you'd need the fuel tank. Also, the exhaust had some unique shaped mufflers, resonator, and cat to fit next to the rear prop shaft. But it isn't anything that an exhaust shop couldn't make.
The rear subframe and suspension is a bit different too, as you might expect. The suspension seems to almost blend the Quadralink configuration with a semi-trailing arm design. I know that doesn't make sense, but if you saw it you'd know what I meant. Regardless, it does look a bit more robust then the Contour's rear suspension. I'll have to get a tape measure out and see if the subframe mounting points are the same as the Contour's. If they are, then this whole thing is somewhat feasible...
By comparison, the PTO on the Escape is a simple corner bender, and the rear axle has the coupling hardware. The truck (I use that term loosely) runs in FWD mode till slip occurs, then the coupling engages to transfer some torque to the rear. When it is locked in 4WD mode, then the coupling locks up and can transfer more torque then it can in Auto 4WD mode. But it is on-demand, which IMHO is less then ideal in a performance car. The Jag hardware provides a permenant AWD function...
Rick Barnes
'66 Ford Ranchero
'84 Ford EXP Turbo Coupe
'88 Mazda 323 GTX
'88 Mazda 323 SE/GT hybrid
'93 Ford Aerostar XLT AWD
'99 Ford Contour SVT
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rick u have some nice cars there buddy
00 Black SVT: Removed res, kvr drilled silver cad rotors, c/f pads, 5% tint all around, kenwood cd player, 2 pyle 12" subs, 2 kenwood 6X9's behind seats 800w logic and 1000w pyle amps\
95 GL MTX:needs tranny evo kit on the way (hopefully)
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i love it! i've been dreaming of an AWD conversion using the x-type as the basis. i believe this is the rear suspension and the full drivetrain.
what would i need to do to determine the feasibility of this?
1999 Cougar V6 MTX
Borla stainless, dual exhuast
ST200 struts, rear strut tower brace
Roush springs, rear sway bar, bodykit
Steeda Tri/X, Powerslot rotors, Falken Ziex 512
Awaiting install: GMK CAI
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I'm a new member,my questions are not ment to be stupid or point fingures.Is the 210 hp moter from the Escape a direct bolt-in and what kind of hp will it make with the factory computery for a Contour 2.5.Next question, will the Lincoln LX 3.9 v-8 fit and will it work without having handling problems or will the car have to be converted to rear drive?This moter makes in excess of 250hp stock with factory exhaust and intake.With the right mods could be fun!I'd do it but I have teenagers and am broke!! 
2000 Contour SE,All stock and lots a fun,But I have plans
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Originally posted by CMAC:
I'm a new member,my questions are not ment to be stupid or point fingures.Is the 210 hp moter from the Escape a direct bolt-in and what kind of hp will it make with the factory computery for a Contour 2.5.
i believe it requires the same work as the 2001+ taurus 3L. that process has been detailed several times. check out some of the FAQs people, like David Z, have written.
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Next question, will the Lincoln LX 3.9 v-8 fit and will it work without having handling problems or will the car have to be converted to rear drive?
won't fit our cars, according to others. and you're right, you'd have to convert the engine for transverse mounting, anyway.
1999 Cougar V6 MTX
Borla stainless, dual exhuast
ST200 struts, rear strut tower brace
Roush springs, rear sway bar, bodykit
Steeda Tri/X, Powerslot rotors, Falken Ziex 512
Awaiting install: GMK CAI
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