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I looked at that 1/4 mile registry and its pretty impressive. The slowest car with a T3/4 is 12.9XX or something like that.
But I don't see how that applies to the previous statements. Just to restate: AWD gives an advantage launching from a dead stop, therefore a car with 2WD of the same power has a much better chance of losing. From a roll, you have to kind of assume that the clutch is engaged and you are rolling slowly at 5mph. The car with the most torque at that rpm (assuming equal weight) is going to take off quicker. This just comes from that fact that AWD has twice the traction generally that a 2WD vehicle does, so you can rev into your power band (probably what you meant). I can burn my tires well below my power band, so launches from a roll or a stop make only slight differences.
I don't believe that you are in your powerband from a 5mph roll. One factor is the spool-up time for your turbo. From a 5 mph roll there is no revving of the motor to pre-spool the turbo, therefore there is a second or two at least before your turbo is spooled and you are in your power-band.
Intersting thing that goes along with what DemonSVT said: At the drags, I could not beat the firebird TransAm; however once we were both rolling he could not increase the distance between us. Given better traction on the launch I could beat him.
By comparison, Car & Driver tested the Dodge Viper from a dead stop and from a 5 mph roll in 0-60 tests, and the viper was only different by 0.01 seconds in either test.
Anyway, there is no complaint against your car or drag race prowess, I just want to clarify why a rolling start is a valid way to measure performance and also indicate why you might get beat from a roll by a car that can't beat you in a quarter mile drag race.

warmonger

I'm not going to bench race with you all. My original statement was my opinion. Get over it. I will not continue this pointless debate.

You may continue playing with your g-Tech now.

Have any of your driven an M5? My buddy has one and let me drive it. Unless the contour has $20,000 in mods+ slicks or all wheel drive it is not going to keep up. The BMW can pull top numbers without you being a perfect driver. And in the twisties the BMW is extremely well balanced.

Now who wants cheese with the whine?

Ask yourself a question: WTF are you doing talking about cars on car bbs's (not just this one) if you aren't at least contemplating the capabilities of different cars?
Last I heard, that is construed as bench racing. So far I have taken you very seriously and respected what you have had to say; don't make yourself a hypocrite with dumb azzed posts like that. If you don't like what I said, say so or don't post if you don't want to "bench race" or share opinions or whatever you call it. I tried to support my argument with facts and you pull up your pants and go home.
Why the hell should I read your opinions and have to "get over it?" My opinion is just as valid, so shouldn't YOU also "get over it"?
Hell, our discussion isn't even about the M5 which is a dream car for me and at least a part of this thread.



warmonger

What a very rude troll