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Oh I know he wont I will bug him about it forever to... sorry about the confusion james...
Oh man oh man 100 post in one day that is a lot of typing... well I take that back cause all he types is "LMAO of these "       "
Hahaha... Adam man we are just giving you a hard time man... dont take it wrong lol  {
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Originally posted by Munch:
If I did the numbers right, a 24mm hollow bar would have to have a 9.5mm (~3/8") wall thickness in order to have the same torsional rigidity as a 22mm solid bar, assuming the same material (i.e. shear modulus) in both bars. But, with the hollow bar, you'd save about 2 lbs. for every foot of bar length (if it's made of say, steel). Assuming the bar is say 4 ft long, that's 8lbs. of weight savings using the hollow bar. Hey, every bit counts!
Damn you two for making me think about my Mechanic of Solids class the last week of break! DAMN YOU TWO!
Now, why does torsional rigidity really matters that much??? I thought it's the lateral forces are the ones that the sway bar are there to prevent? I mean, the sway bars are there to reduce chassis flex when cornering, so it's compressed left to right? So shouldn't you be more worried about the direct shear and stress?
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Originally posted by AirKnight:
Now, why does torsional rigidity really matters that much???
Because since the bar is bent at a 90 degree angle on both ends the middle section of the bar is what actually does the resisting. Thus in the 90 degree translation of energy it would in effect be exerting a twisting motion on the center section of the bar.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by AirKnight:
Now, why does torsional rigidity really matters that much???
Because since the bar is bent at a 90 degree angle on both ends the middle section of the bar is what actually does the resisting. Thus in the 90 degree translation of energy it would in effect be exerting a twisting motion on the center section of the bar.
100% Correct.
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One more argument about your post counts and I will have both reset to 0!
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I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment
for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety
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Originally posted by Corbett:
Power trip.
Forgive him god...he knoweth not what he sayeth...
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Originally posted by AirKnight:
Originally posted by Munch:
If I did the numbers right, a 24mm hollow bar would have to have a 9.5mm (~3/8") wall thickness in order to have the same torsional rigidity as a 22mm solid bar, assuming the same material (i.e. shear modulus) in both bars. But, with the hollow bar, you'd save about 2 lbs. for every foot of bar length (if it's made of say, steel). Assuming the bar is say 4 ft long, that's 8lbs. of weight savings using the hollow bar. Hey, every bit counts!
Damn you two for making me think about my Mechanic of Solids class the last week of break! DAMN YOU TWO!
Now, why does torsional rigidity really matters that much??? I thought it's the lateral forces are the ones that the sway bar are there to prevent? I mean, the sway bars are there to reduce chassis flex when cornering, so it's compressed left to right? So shouldn't you be more worried about the direct shear and stress?
Not lateral forces, but lateral weight transfer of the car via vertical deflection of the suspension, which is resisted via the torsion of the swaybar, per Demon.
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This isn't about a power trip. It's about trying to resolve stupid arguments and unsolicited attacks on fellow CEGer's. Lance has always a had a firm stance on the fac that he will zero post counts if arguing occurs. Not all the moderators have time to read all the threads so I do my part where it's needed.
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