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Buckshot is right I have no idea how hard this would be with the engine in the car. 11 hours is for the contorionist vortech mecahnics! Another thing that is very important is to make sure the alignment of the shaft mounting points are right on, there isn't much slop but before torqing the brackets on the trans and the bracket on the pulley side make sure they are even so that shaft is perfectly horizontal, we did this on mine and measured from the ground when the engine was out. If its out of alignment it could cause troubles after extended usage.
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The shop I had do my install took 40 hrs for the supercharger! This shop does upwards of 60 superchargers a year too. This was the first contour they have done. They said they will never ever touch a contour again! real professional huh? If I could do it all over again I would put it in myself.
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I will be willing to bet that the Turbo install is more labor intensive and I have been there for several of those... I am not looking forward to being without my car for that long of a period of time though. Oh well. All in the name of progress. Thanks for the heads-up.
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This makes me soooo jealous. BStone...I must have looked at your dyno graphs 100 times, no joking. Too bad I have the 2000 SVT. It's got all the interior upgrades and higer compression, etc...but I can't get no S/C. I'm very hesitant to modify modifications (i.e. what Kinger and bnoon are doing). Can't wait to see more dyno graphs to drool over.
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You can make the SC work on the returnless...i say go for it.
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ya seriously making the Vortech work on a returnless fuel system is, well, pretty much trivial now that it has been done and proven. That is not a reason to hold up on doing it.
you need three things to make it work - injectors, chip and a MAF. Thats it....
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It's the whole "modding the mod" thing I'm afraid of. Is Kinger's car up and running? If so, I should pick his brain more (I already have ) about his install. How much have people paid for their S/C installs? I'd like to have someone do it who's familiar w/ the Contour. Brad, Jesse, you guys wanna install another S/C on a returnless car? There is one more thing holding me back from this whole forced induction thing...Grad School. Dang!
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Jesse's car has been on the road for a few weeks now. He has yet to get the chip dyno tuned and I don't know yet if he has had his laptop hooked up to be able to make a safe full RPM run yet. As far as S/Cing a returnless car, the install is pretty much the same with the addition of the larger injectors and then installing the custom chip versus the stock vortech chip. Brad is done with the install stuff and I think Jesse is probably done, but I'm interested in it if you want to have someone do it. If you need any recommendations just PM Brad or Jesse.
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Hey guys, My car is running but not very well yet, the warm idle map on the chip is messed up, so I'm waiting for the new program. Once I get that puppie back and I can drive it with out it killing I'll get everything dyno tuned. As far as the returnless SC its a peice of cake, you actually don't even need a MAF on a 2.5L. We used the MAF just because we installed huge 42# injectors, to feed that sucker and felt that the MAF was a neccissity and it helped the chip guys too because they could calibrate off of the spec sheet from Pro-M. On a regular 2.5 you can adjust for larger injectors with the chip. So all you need is a a dyno tuned chip (must be dyno tuned IMO) and 24# injectors. Only draw back is it's not plug and play, you'll have some down time, until that chip get dyno tuned. Either way not a bad price to pay, I hope to be FULLY functional by the end of the month and will have bragging rights on my dyno sheet ......That is until Rick gets his baby done
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