i have an idea then...... look around the internet, find a better price, notify me, and i will set that up..... In regards to the OBX, that isnt what the group buy is for, if you want to start a different GB for those go ahead, but i still want a b&m..... Lastly, if you can find a B&M for 145-150, including shipping, tell me where it is, i would like to know....