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V=up to 149 mph. Z=149 and up W=168 Y=186. Gotta have Z's? Top speed on an SVT is what? Lots of BS going on here. "Shoehorn" 205/55-16? That's the size, man. 205/60-16 is too tall.
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I just bought Bridgestone Potenze 950's for $94ea from Luke! Great tire all season wise!
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MC,
OK. Theoretical difference in diameter between 205/55-16 and 205/60-16 is .8", which translates to a useless ride height change of .4" while knocking off your speedo by 3.2% and raising your final drive ratio.
But my comment to you was directed at your use of "shoehorn," which seems to imply that 205/55-16 is somehow an odd size that isn't meant for our cars.
The first part of my post was meant to question the need for "high performance" rubber, so I think we agree there.
And as for pricing, when I look at Tire Rack for all season tires in both sizes, I see a price range on the proper size of $62 to $171, and on the tall size of $59 to $97, with one sixth the selection. So it looks to me as if the choice of spending "too much" on tires is up to the buyer.
OK, so 205/60-16 isn't "too" tall, but it is tall, and I fail to see how using the proper size tire is "shoehorning."
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Roger,
I guess what I meant by shoe-horning was trying to stay with that same size only. The 205/55/16 severly limits your choices, whereas the 205/60/16 gives you more and cheaper (read H rated) choices. If you compare tires sizes on the spec sheets, you'll notice that some tires have a bigger diameter difference, tho being the same 205/60/16 size. The Yok Avids I ran were .8 taller than the Dunlop 8000s I ran (205/60 Yoks vs 205/55 Duns).
Honestly...no fooling...for winter you just don't need a Z rated 55/50 series tire unless you live in a warm climate.
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Originally posted by mcgainer: The 205/55/16 severly limits your choices, whereas the 205/60/16 gives you more and cheaper (read H rated) choices.
Huh? There are a lot more 205/55R16 tire choices than 205/60R16. Anyway, For a 98 SVT with E0 rims I'd just get the 205/55R16 OEM size all-season tires. Some people on later SVT models have problems with 225/50R16 (same diameter as 205/55R16) being too tall and rubbing on the wheel well liner, so any larger doesn't seem like a good idea.
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In reply to:
The Yok Avids I ran were .8 taller than the Dunlop 8000s I ran (205/60 Yoks vs 205/55 Duns).
.8 taller would mean a .4 increase in ride height, or do you mean the overall tire was 1.6 taller? In reply to:
for winter you just don't need a Z rated 55/50 series tire unless you live in a warm climate.
I agree. My point with my list of ratings and what they mean is that all of them are rated higher than the SVT's top speed, IIRC, and also to counter some of the stuff being said, (not by you) such as "You should have Z, but could "get by" with at least a W...," when W is actually a more robust speed rating. Actually, most of the winter tires are Q-rated, which is only up to 99 mph. In reply to:
The 205/55/16 severly limits your choices, whereas the 205/60/16 gives you more and cheaper (read H rated) choices.
Again, looking at Tire Rack as an example, in the 205/55-16 size, H-rated all-season only, there are 12 different models of tire to choose from, again from $62 up to about $112. Searching H-rated All season in 205/60-16 yields 3 repeats and one unique choice, the Yok Avid H4, which is a bargain at $59. The difference in price between the tires that are offered in both sizes, ranges from $2 on the RE92, to $12 on the SP Sport A2, and the Eagle HP. At any rate, I don't see a huge difference, and if anything, I see a great deal more selection in the 205/55-16 size, which is actually very common. You can run 205/60-16 if you want, but I still don't see any compelling reason to do so.
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Another vote for the Sp Sport A2's ...... very good tire.
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