except for all the cheap stuff GM did (ford has done same sorta things), i'd still rather have a camaro (rust isn't a big problem in south GA and who cares about the passenger

) v6 vs. v6, camaro is still faster, IMO looks good, and handles better. and i'd take a GM tranny over a ford any day,,,,, actually so would ford, they just made a deal with GM to use GM's design for a new 6 speed ATX.