This is my last post on the subject. A good 2.5 crush bend can produce more power than a stock svt exhaust. Demonsvt posed the challenge of proof and it was met. I didn't force him to post the challenge. My current setup is almost as fast as his at $370 including the whole crush bent exhaust with glasspack,bullet muffler and crome tip. Also included is an intake from Bat.Crush bends can proving an easy cheap way to gain goof performance at an inexpensive price. That's it i"m done I'm never going to respond to this 2 threds again. I only wanted good debate on the subject.