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I'll road race.
I think you be suprised how well I do.
Its not all about HP in road races.
Suspension, breaking, & driver too.
SVT has me only slightly (if at all) in suspension,
I have rear drums compared to the SVT rear disk (so you got me there),
and my driving skills are a bit above average.
And any distance I MIGHT fall behind in the curves I can make up in the straights.

Nitrous does exactly what I want it to,
make me go faster when I need it.

Plus I still get better gas mileage.

Originally posted by Sleeper:

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I'll road race.
I think you be suprised how well I do.
Its not all about HP in road races.
Suspension, breaking, & driver too.
SVT has me only slightly (if at all) in suspension,

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You're right about HP, well for the most part. But I'll give you a ride in my SVT one of these days on track and I think you'll think twice about the suspension comment. I think the SVT walks over the other stock contours. Now if you bring in an aftermarket suspension, that is a different story.

A well setup aftermarket suspension should outperform the SVT's suspension, but trust me, not too many people actually can figure out how to correctly set a suspesion up. There is a lot more to suspensions then just lowering a car.

I've got the stiffer SE suspension, front and rear strut tower braces, and 19mm rear sway bar.
Still running the stock 15" Sport rims with sticky tires.
Not lowered at all.
Rear drums unfortunately, but upgraded front brakes.
And no ABS luckily.

So a stock SVT isn't to much better than where I am at.

Not putting the SVT down, I really like it, just saying that a Zetec can be modded to hang with and even beat one.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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Originally posted by Dan Nixon:

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Originally posted by ZetecRacing:

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Esslinger did a Zetec without a turbo or supercharger or a bottle and was making over 400whp. can someone show me a 2.5L duratec that does that or a 3L?

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OK, you will have to show me that one..until then I'm calling BS.. Or more politically correct..the probability of truth is unacceptably low.

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it's there, go look at it, just search for it on yahoo or esslinger's site,,, that's funny, can't accept the zetec being fast,,, and this is more tuner talk than ricer talk, i'm not saying a stock zetec can beat a duratec, but a modded one easily can., i've seen plenty of hondas; N/A,turbo, supercharged, and bottle fed that can easily blow the doors off of any contour (currently ). you duratec guys need to realize just cause you start out with more power, doesn't mean you'll end up with more power.

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Its customary for the one making the wild claim to post the link not send everybody else on a wild goose chase.

Hey, I did not say anything bad about your 4-pot. I realize, accept, and otherwise do not care about the fact that a zetec, or even a 1.3L GEO Metro can go faster than me with 1)nitrous, 2)turbo, 3)S/C, 4)extensive internal mods, 5)transplant engine or a 6)gutted car. But not with bolt ons. ...Honda, well thats another level of engineering..they make the best 4-cylinder in the world and use high RPM breathing instead of forced induction..which I respect alot. Nothing against turbos..as former MR2 T owner myself, but as I said they overcome almost all engine weaknesses and can make 1000 HP in everything from an LS6 to a 1.3L Geo. If you wish to gloat about 1000 HP zetecs, thats fine..I was just responding to the comment about no powerful turbo Duratecs.

You know I talked to Ken Dutweiller's shop awhile back..that 450HP single turbo 2.5L Duratec was just getting warmed up and using modest boost, street gas. The guy says they met the Ford HP objective and quit turning up the boost wick. But he guessed that another 100-150 HP would be no problem with the stock billet crank. http://www.mercurycapri.com/projectrsx/v8sho/25v6turbo.html
Try 600 HP with your stock nodular iron crank if you want to talk boost..

Originally posted by Dan Nixon:

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Try 600 HP with your stock nodular iron crank if you want to talk boost..

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Not gonna happen...

yeah so i get another crank, ummm did you have a point there? and joe didn't make a wild claim, he posted a fact and if you don't believe it, then you can find it, since it's you who doubt, though joe probably will post a link. and i don't think honda makes the best engines, i saw where summitracing threw a bunch of costly mods onto a vtec, and gained some decent horsepower but about 2 or 3 ft lbs of torque, which is what really matters. the s2000 gets spanked routinely at the local 1/8th mile track because it's mainly good for just top end,, now they can all be heavily modded to be good, but they're not the most powerful engines out there, gm's ecotec (modded) has set a (drag) record for 4cyls. my main point is the zetec has far more potential than ya'll duratec owners think, as sleeper and joe have proven, and hector. and again, like joe said, where is a N/A duratec with 400hp?

I believe my point was lost on you but I await the link.

Originally posted by Dan Nixon:

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I believe my point was lost on you but I await the link.

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i asked what your point was, but i guess my question was lost on you. here are some parts for the zetec http://www.zetecracing.com/zetecindex.htm here is a pic of the fast car: here is some info on zetecs in drag racing http://www.urbanracer.com/features/nira_website.html don't have time to find more info, but i don't need the info,, you wanted it; find it.

Well I tried that link, no 400 FWHP zetec but they said this:
"Top Focus teams now include Team AEBS' 7 second entry, the NuFormz/Meguiar's Focus, STR's entry and the Escort ZX2 of Esslinger Engineering. Nelson Hoyas' V6 tube framed Focus will be shooting for 6 second, 200 mph runs when it joins this field for the first time."

Wonder what kind of V6??

And no, i am not going to go find the link..cause I did not make the claim. Anyway, my points are quite clear and if you choose to think that I am somehow badmouthing "zetecs" then so be it. I'm going to say goodbye to this thread.

Congratulations on the new time.
i'm a little late on this thread....