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I just changed my plugs this weekend and discovered the firewall GAPS at ~ 0.63 and the Front Gaps at ~.70
The threads mention this but did not find answer in SEARCH
Any Gurus with insight ?
Will my MPG improve ? Been at ~23 lately
THANKS
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1999 GREEN Contour SE SPORT Duratec V6, ATX, SUNROOF, 93,000 Miles, P0420 ON&OFF -replaced DS O2 --did not FIX
*New TORQUE CONVERTER @ 53,000-Intermittent P1744
*New DASH at 53,000 and New DASH lifted-now using MOLLEY bolts to pull down
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OK, what plug did you remove? What plugs did you use to replace them?
Without that info, nobody can post any insights.
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The AS PURCHASED OEM plugs were removed {this was the 1st Change @ ~56,000 Miles}
The front 3 next to the Radiator were ~ 0.70
The rear three next to the firewall were ~0.63
I used the same OEM plugs Motorcraft per the book
1999 GREEN Contour SE SPORT Duratec V6, ATX, SUNROOF, 93,000 Miles, P0420 ON&OFF -replaced DS O2 --did not FIX
*New TORQUE CONVERTER @ 53,000-Intermittent P1744
*New DASH at 53,000 and New DASH lifted-now using MOLLEY bolts to pull down
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The ignition system on our cars is known as a waste fire ignition. Two cylinders fire off the same coil at the same time. One of the cylinders would be igniting the power stroke and the other cylinder would be in the exhaust stroke (where the spark does nothing). A little later the other cylinder would be starting the power stroke and vice versa.
When the same coil fires two cylinders at the same time, one of the cylinders is fired in reverse polarity. Another way of saying this is one bank of the engine fires the plugs conventionally from the center wire to the side wire while the other bank fire in reverse from the side wire to the center wire.
The original plugs are a single platinum tip plug with a fine wire center wire of platinum while the side wire is steel. There is less electrode erosion when it is fired from the platinum tip. The cylinders that fired from the steel side wire will wear faster.
Earlier in Ford's history of waste fire ignitions, the original plugs had a platinum tip on the electrode that was fired from, so that there were two different styles of plugs in the engine. The specified replacement plugs were double platinum with platinum buttons on each electrode to make them "idiot proof" so that they would not be accidently installed incorrectly. Ford did a good job of educating their technicians on the importance of using double platinum plugs on such engines. Without explanation they changed to single plat fine wire plugs in 1996. Because of this early education, I still use double plats in my engine, either Motorcraft AWSF 32PP (the plug cataloged for 1995 Duratecs) or Autolite APP764 (which is the same plug with a different label, Autolite is the vendor that makes nearly all of Ford's Motorcraft plugs).
So the short answer to your question is that the rear bank of the engine is reverse fired and the side wire will erode faster than the front bank.
A solution would be to rotate the plugs from front to rear and rear to front half way through their life. A more sensable solution would be to just use double plat plugs in the first place.
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Big Jim
Thanks for the education
That helps me understand that I dont own a LEMON and that is good as my luck with this car is bad [torque converter, dash but I just paid it off !]]
This site is great and the experts like you are a welcome to the backyard mechanic
Thanks again for the excellent description that I almost understand
1999 GREEN Contour SE SPORT Duratec V6, ATX, SUNROOF, 93,000 Miles, P0420 ON&OFF -replaced DS O2 --did not FIX
*New TORQUE CONVERTER @ 53,000-Intermittent P1744
*New DASH at 53,000 and New DASH lifted-now using MOLLEY bolts to pull down
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Please PM me if I can clear up the explanation any better. It is not rocket science. I'm sure that I can make it crystal clear.
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So what is the optimum gap for a 98 EO SVT. I'm due for a change soon and will be using the awsf 32 pp's but should I go .63 for rears and .70 for fronts, or .63 for all or .70 for all or what should I do......
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Originally posted by HoosierContour: 52
Yep; .050-.054 I gapped mine at .050 Anything wear .060 or better is not good. .070 is extremely out of spec.
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I seem to remember reading or hearing somewhere that you shouldn't gap platinum plugs..something about it scraping off the platinum coating or something...any truth to this or was I fed a line? Also, when is it generally recomended we change plugs on on the Duratec?
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