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You know all this is going on because this dude lost some hot ass girl to the guy with the Contour Personally i think he should hop back in his Geo Metro with the APC stickers , and the fart can, and try to find a hill to roll down. With any luck there will be a large cliff at the end of it. You're out of your league bro. Maybe you should go bug the Honda boys. I heard they were talking crap about your spinach souffle you prepared for them at the last Girl Scout meeting. Peace!

Originally posted by SVTMike99:

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You know all this is going on because this dude lost some hot ass girl to the guy with the Contour Personally i think he should hop back in his Geo Metro with the APC stickers , and the fart can, and try to find a hill to roll down. With any luck there will be a large cliff at the end of it. You're out of your league bro. Maybe you should go bug the Honda boys. I heard they were talking crap about your spinach souffle you prepared for them at the last Girl Scout meeting. Peace!

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LOL

This dude talks trash about Ford. But truthfully Ford came out with the first pony car then chevy came out with the Camaro then Firebird. So if it wasn't for the Mustang the Camaro would not even be here. Also you cant foreget about the Cuda like the AAR Cuda and the Himi Cuda and the Callenger R/T all pony cars also because of the mustang. And which is left in production well lets see, Mustang. And the trend now days is 4dr cars with power because we are grown up now and have families.

My dream car is a '71 cuda w/ hemi and a shaker hood in either plum crazy purple or competition yellow , I guess I will be dreaming for a long time haha, but I have wanted one since I saw one on shadetree mechanic when I was around 10 yrs old

the new mach 1s will have shaker hood scoops... they look nice, not as nice as supercharged cobra, but nice. they need to go back to using an aluminum block though.

I love that new Mach 1. But I'm saving for a 70 cougar either drop-top or Eliminator in compitition orange. The new motor trend has the '05 mustange prototype it looks like a 66 to 69 stang. But hay no camaro well I never liked the new camaro's they are way too fat in the hips. My mom had an '84 camaro with V8 and T-tops it was nice but hay. The mustange lives on.

the new body change mustang will look awesome, i love the retro styling with the some new styling. you know you can get old style back window louvers like old stangs had for new stangs,, they look real nice. i'd rather have a base model camaro over a comparable year base mustang, but the svt cobra would probably be my pick over a SS.

Okay, I am going to settle this arguement.

Everyone is right, and everyone is wrong. Both car companies have made some great stuff, and they have made some junk. Let me further my point:

I work for a racing engine school called ETC Racing Programs. (www.etcracingprograms.com) Our business is teaching people how to build high performance racing engines. All we do all day everyday is racing engine related. We teach the UAW factory workers how to build race motors. The people who teach our classes are professional racing engine builders that build NASCAR, NHRA, IHRA, BUSCH, WINSTON CUP, SCCA, need I say more? Now that you know that I am qualified, here is the truth: all engines are the same. There is NO DIFFERENCE between a chevy motor and a ford motor or a BMW motor for that matter. Any engine is good, if they follow the rules.

Any engine is good if all the proper machining techniques are followed. That means all the cylinders are are 90 degrees to the crankshaft, the main bore is straight, the crank is indexed, basically the engine is "blueprinted."

Part of our running our class is buying engines. We have seen junk from FORD and GM. We purchase crate motors for class use. We have 302's, 351's 514's from ford and 454's and 350's from GM. When we get these engines, we check things like line bore, piston to wall clearance, piston to valve clearance, bearing clearance, etc. Every single engine we recieve has something wrong with it. It doesn't matter if it's GM or Ford. As far as which engine comes from the facory with more power, We've dyno'ed a lot of GM crate engines that say they make 300 at the flywheel, and when we engine dyno them, they only make 260.

Both brands of engine can and will make awesome amounts of horsepower, despite what's cast into the block. It really doesn't matter how they came from the factory, I PROMISE EVERY PERSON HERE that if you took a crate ford or chevy engine, blueprinted and balanced it, you would make 50-70 bhp at the flywheel. They are that messed up from the factory. GM and FORD have to put out hundreds of motors a day. Do you really thing they are going to make every single one perfect to the ten thousands of an inch they need to be? No.

We have students that are making 1500 horsepower from a ford big block, we also have students running 2000 bhp mopar engine.

The bottom line is they are all the same, you can make anything go fast, you just have to have the attention to detail to do it right.

There is no special magic to having a fast engine; they all have rods, pistons, rocker arms, etc. Making them all work together correctly is just and making them go fast is just a matter of doing the job right the first time.

Some very nice info tgrimes! Man where can I sign up for that class

Originally posted by Locster:

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This dude talks trash about Ford. But truthfully Ford came out with the first pony car then chevy came out with the Camaro then Firebird. So if it wasn't for the Mustang the Camaro would not even be here. Also you cant foreget about the Cuda like the AAR Cuda and the Himi Cuda and the Callenger R/T all pony cars also because of the mustang. And which is left in production well lets see, Mustang. And the trend now days is 4dr cars with power because we are grown up now and have families.

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Actually Pontiac came out with the 1st pony car, the 64 GTO, then Mustangs, then Camaros... And I believe (correct me if I am wrong) the GTO was offered in 63 as an upgrade to the tempest (sp?)